Forget how I know, or if I know, or if that’s true. HYPOTHETICALLY. Do you agree or no?
No I don’t. It’s a private party, and they can invite whomever they wish.
Then you are nothing but a racist apologist, seeing as you don’t see anything ethically wrong with racism.
I will now retire from this thread, blissfully ignorant of the color of milroyj’s skin.
[qoute]Then you are nothing but a racist apologist
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He’s also very stupid. I feel like this needs to be said every time he posts with his favorite one-liner.
No one is saying they can’t, dickhead.
Completely untrue, you dishonest fuck.
Word. Where the fuck is Fenris when you need him?
…sorry, I was skimming the IAPPATCIWTW posts, so I missed this:
DING!
Next up: Why there’s no White Etertainment Television.
Glad to see no one is answering the question. How is it racist to have a private party? Answer that, mis amigos.
It’s racist if you choose to invite or not invite people based on their race. I can’t fucking believe I have to actually write that out. Seriously, milroyj, how do you get dressed in the morning? I mean, if you can’t figure out how a private party could possibly be racist, buttons and zippers must be way beyond you. Tying your shoes must be a monumental obstacle.
milroyj, I don’t know what’s up with you. Because I know you’re a smart fellow, and I often agree with you. So I don’t get it.
No, it’s not necessarily racist to invite all white people. Until my sister married her husband (who is black), all our family gatherings were white-only. Because everyone in our family was white. In the neighborhood where I grew up, all our neighborhood get-togethers were white only. Because we didn’t have any black people on our block (that I can remember). But we weren’t racist, because it was just how it was. No one on our block was black. (This was a small neighborhood in Glendale, California—not very integrated at the time.)
Now, had there been a family gathering or neighborhood get-together which had specifically said that no black people would be permitted, so my sister’s husband couldn’t come, well, we’d all think that the people who initiated such a rule to be racist pricks. Because that would not be nice. To not include my brother-in-law because he’s a pain in the ass (not that he is) or because he wears lamp shades on his head (he doesn’t) would not be racist. It would be common sense! But to exclude him just because he’s black, well, that’s racist.
And that’s what these kids did when they specifically excluded black kids for no other reason than because they were black. And that’s not nice, to put it simply.
Now, I fully expect you to come in here now and say, “They can invite whomever they wish, it was a private party.”
And SURE they can! Just like my family could have not invited my brother-in-law, because they don’t like his skin color. No law against it. But it wouldn’t be nice. I would have a negative opinion of it. Would you?
I’m glad too. It shows that people have some sort of common sense.
That’s like me asking “How is it crazy to post to a message board?” Posting to a message board isn’t crazy. Posting to an idiot on a message board–and expecting that idiot to comprehend what you’re saying–is crazy.
I don’t think we know enough about this situation. According to the Associated Press photo that accompanies the cited story, last year’s prom, the first integrated one, was held in Columbus, Georgia. Fifty miles away, but as the second largest city in Georgia, Columbus offers any number of sites to hold a prom and opportunities for other activities as well.
This year’s prom is on the campus of Fort Valley State University, 22 miles away in Fort Valley, Georgia. That’s a small town, with little going on except for the University. Then plug in the fact that Fort Valley State is a “Historically Black University” such as several others that have been mentioned in this thread already.
Surely, the organizers had to know that given the unstable situation, a move to the Fort Valley campus would be considered controversial by some. Granted, it’s unfortunate that it would seem that way, but the move could have been an “In Your Face” type of thing. Was the change in venue the result of some insider power play among the student body? Maybe, maybe not. We don’t know.
If the move was done as a deliberate attempt to disrupt progress towards racial harmony, it appears to have succeeded, as indicated by the number of white students that bailed out of the official prom.
Doesn’t the school have a gym or auditorium that could be adapted for a prom? In my experience, any building that basketball can be played in can also host a prom.
Since the prom is once again sanctioned by the school authorities, where are they in this?
I think that with the slightest degree of leadership from school administrators this whole fiasco could have been avoided. Or maybe the school authorities don’t care to promote racial harmony. If that’s the case, they deserve a hob-nailed boot up their ass.
Upon reading this thread, I have come to the conclusion (under the guidance of the oh-so-brilliant milroyj) that the KKK is not racist, nor, for that matter, was the Nazi Party.
Because the KKK is a private organization. They can let whoever they want join, right?
Same for the Nazis. They could let whoever they wanted to join, right? Nice and good.
No, on second thought, that doesn’t work. I’ve come to the conclusion that milroyj is nothing but an ass.
Wow! That was truly a weird ending to this thread, I gotta say.
Assuming, of course, that milroyj fixed that bug in his software that got him into that infinite loop.
You raise some interesting points, John. But I have a hard time believing that people purposefully chose Fort Valley to be divisive. If Fort Valley is the closest college in the area (or the closest place that could provide the facilities needed by the students), it seems like it would be a natural choice. And if it being predominately black is the cause of the splintering, then again that indicates racism.
I agree about the school needing to sponsor and be in charge of the function.
By Monstro: “And if it being predominately black is the cause of the splintering, then again that indicates racism.”
Of course it indicates racism. But…That racism exists, possibly on both sides, is not in question here. The question is how to combat it, chip away at it, until it’s gone. Last year’s prom seemed a step in the right direction. Now THIS!
It’s sad because there may be any number of good reasons to hold the prom at the subject university. To do so, however, was not at all prudent under the circumstances. Anyone who lives around Taylor County should have seen TRAINWRECK coming well in advance on this one. Choosing Ft. Valley State for a prom site gave racists an excuse to take overt action. I would have chosen a “neutral site” until the situation had several years to stabilize.
Please don’t think I’m saying any of this is right. I’ve spent a lifetime in these parts quietly working for equality and acceptance among all people. There has been remarkable progress over the past few decades, but it’s never been quick. And obvoiusly, the job isn’t finished.
I just hate to see last year’s good start ruined, another opportunity blown.
Yosemitebabe, because I respect your opinion, I’m gonna drop it. Sorry to all that were offended, that was not my intent.
I’ll call every damn needle-dicked white racist a fucking cracker until the sun explodes. Unrepentant racists of every stripe deserve the maximum amount of scorn, derision and abuse available.
If you do not comprehend my disgust at these honky punks and their stinking shit-headed soiree then you might want to lay off the cactus juice, TPC.
And with that one single question, you have proven yourself to be entirely uncontaminated by gray matter and utterly unscathed by the ravages of intelligence.
Let’s add liar to Miller’s huge list of synonyms for ‘stupid.’
dilsod, all of us here are ostensibly participating in a fight against ignorance. Unless you are truly so fucking stupid as you’ve made yourself out to be in this thread, you know damn well that posting and reposting the same moronic and unresponsive sentence over and over and fucking over again is OFFENSIVE. To pretend otherwise is pure unadulterated liquid HORSESHIT.
Do you understand just how serious it is to be referred to as trollish in your behavior here? Do you understand that it is the Kiss of Death[sup]™[/sup] at these boards? Do you have the remotest idea of how severely you have compromised many people’s estimation of your (putative) intelligence?
No? I thought as much.
With your head so far up your limitless and capacious ass, do you have to blink every time you swallow something?
I’ll also add that while the Future Bigots of Tomorrow[sup]™[/sup] were within their rights to have organized such a turd gobbling event, the school administrators who actively promoted it with district funds and property, to the point of sanctioning it with the term “prom,” need to answer in open court for actively encouraging discriminatory conduct.
Let me take a stab at explaining the difference in play here to milroyj.
Take one hypothetical party. The hosts actively invite a large group of friends and classmates, who all happen to be white, individually, i.e. “Here’s an invitation, Bobbi Sue. Here’s an invitation, John-boy. Here’s an invitation, Sally Jo.”
Take another hypothetical party. The hosts “invite” their guests by the expedient of putting up a poster saying “White students only”.
While both of these hypothetical party hosts are quite within their rights to do what they’ve hypothetically done, there is a qualitative difference between the two. One is not racist. The other one is.