White republican wins election by fooling black voters

Keep in mind ebay deletes these listings because they are fraudulent. But apparently you don’t think ebay has a right to decide what is fraud or not on their own services.

Similar: Don Burleson Blog: Beware of Australian eBay fraud Portrayed as an iphone in the original box, except for the fine print, which says it’s ONLY the original box.

More: Ebay Scam: People Still Trying To Sell "Pictures" Of Things – Consumerist

That reminds me: Dorjän said this kind of stuff happens “all the time” and then posted one example of… something, maybe a candidate using the same name as another candidate. (If so, that’s beyond the pale whether a Republican or Democrat did it. See how easy that was?)

That’s what screenshots are for.

The only thing I could find was this: Ebay Scam: People Still Trying To Sell "Pictures" Of Things – Consumerist

It shows the description of the item as:

You are Bidding on a picture of a Apple iPod Video Black 30 gb that is BRAND New In BOX. As you can see in the picture it has never been opened. I Only Ship to the continental United States. I do not ship to PO Boxs. This is an as is sale There will be no returns. Payment is due within 3 days of sale ending. Thank you for looking at my sale and Happy Bidding!

Anyone who sent a lot of money to the seller and got a picture got exactly what he was bidding on.

Did you look at that link? The auction title is:
“Apple iPhone 8Gb Original Box and Manual”

The auction picture is of the original box and manual, not of the iPhone.

And the description includes the words: “This auction does not include a phone, only the original box and manual.”

If a buyer thinks he’s buying an iPhone in this auction, he deserves to lose money.

The sad part is that this is central to a lot of people’s views on society and politics. ‘If I take advantage of you, it’s your own fault anyway.’

The auction is selling “Original Box and Manual”. The auction SAYS it is not selling the phone. If you expect to get the phone, it’s your own fault.

I already know what the seller would say. Yeah, it’s really stupid that anyone submitted a bid at all and I’m familiar with the saying about a fool and his money. But I know what a technicality is, and I still think people who prey on others are more culpable than people who get tricked.

Anyone who (as in that auction) expected to get an iPhone for $120 (while at the time they cost something like $500) was fooling (or, if you prefer, “tricking”) himself.

Like I already posted, I know what the seller would say. :wink:

“Original box” is how things are usually listed on ebay, due to the need to save space. A 2 minute look on ebay would show this, but that would require effort on your part.

But thank you, you have done an upstanding job of demonstrating what kind of person you are - it doesn’t matter if you purposefully try to fool others be it in elections or business or whatever, well, it’s their fault anyway. They deserved it. That’s conservatives in a nutshell.

This is just stupid.

Here are the top current results of Ebay search of “original box”:

TRANSFORMERS MADE BY HASBRO 1985 “BUZZSAW” IN ORIGINAL BOX DECEPTICON COMMUNICA

American Flyer 3/16" Three dome tank car #926 w/ original box early 50s

1991 S MINT UNITED STATES MINT PRESTIGE SET WITH ORIGINAL BOX AND COA

Vintage 1963 Skipper Barbie Doll in Original Box Mattel Stock No.0950 + Extras

Collectable Black Velvet Whiskey Bar Glasses Set of Three in Original Boxes!

Po-Ke-No, 12 Board Set. In Original Box

VINTAGE 1962 AURORA No. 715 GERMAN BATTLESHIP BISMARCK MODEL KIT in ORIGINAL BOX

10 Unbuilt Kit CARS all New in their Original Boxes Misc Roads see listing

Original Lionel Trains No. 6019 Remote Control Track Set with Original Box

AMERICAN FLYER S GAUGE 48323 1995 CHRISTMAS BOX CAR IN THE ORIGINAL BOX

Allis Chalmers D-19. New with Original box. ERTL 1:43 Scale. Very Nice Tractor

… etc etc. Not one of them is anything like the title that you claim was fraudulent.

When someone says they are selling the original box to you, that’s what you’re getting. Not the item that came in that original box.

On the first page of “iphone original box” is, discounting any that are only selling boxes without phones:

APPLE iPhone 4S verizon WHITE 32gb clean ESN original box

NEW Lifeproof Waterproof iPhone 5 Case Authentic White/Grey Original Box

Linksys WIP320 Linksys Wireless-G Skype iPhone Wifi Phone ORIGINAL BOX

Apple iPhone 4S 32GB White AT&T Unlocked Original Box MINT CONDITION

Mint Blossom SwitchEasy Case-Original Boxed For iPhone4 4SUSA SELLER

**Apple iPhone 4s - 16GB - White (AT&T) Smartphone, original box!!

Apple iPhone 4s - 16GB - Black (Sprint) Smartphone - original box - good ESN

Apple iPhone 4 - 16GB - White (Factory Unlocked) Smartphone Original box and acc
…and then I got bored around halfway down the list.

In any case, I’m done. You tried to derail this thread to help defend dishonest politicians. You succeeded, but in the process also proved you think it’s ok to cheat and scam people for your own gain, as long as you can portray them as less intelligent than you.

Why “discounting”? You claim those are fraudulent, right?

Here: this one - is it a fraud? After all, you might think (if you’re stupid) that you will be getting a phone when you win this auction.

Good God, Terr. You think it’s ethical for folks to create an auction that intends to deceive, if they have fine print telling the truth, and that if someone is deceived by an intentional deception, there’s no blame attached to the person intending to deceive?

That’s terrible.

Good God, Hand. There is no “fine print”. It’s the first sentence in the description, for crying out loud. In normal font. As in “You are Bidding on a picture of a Apple iPod Video Black 30 gb that is BRAND New In BOX.”

Or in the other case as in the title of the auction “Apple iPhone 8Gb Original Box and Manual”. Not the phone. Box and Manual. It’s not like selling the box and a manual without the phone is unheard of - it happens quite often.

There is a minimum “due diligence” expected of a buyer. If the buyer decides that he’s getting something that is clearly NOT in the description of the item, it’s not the seller’s fault. Especially when that buyer thinks he’s getting the item for 20% of what it should sell for.

Yes, this would be the very first time it has been done in America, and specifically on the SDMB.

And, it wasn’t slander.

Many different auctions have been listed, so it’s tricky to discuss the details–I was talking about the one you just linked to, which doesn’t even clarify in the fine print that there’s no there there.

Would you explain what you think the honest market is for pictures of iPods that are BRAND New in BOX? Is this something that’s a hot commodity? Do you genuinely think there is anyone out there wanting to purchase such a picture and for whom the BRAND New in BOX is a key selling point for the photograph? Do you genuinely think the seller was intending to be forthright and intended no trickery?

Edit: the auction you listed says “Apple iPhone 8Gb Original Box and Manual.” It beggars belief to think you’re unaware of advertising shorthand, in which that title would usually refer to an Apple iPhone 8Gb [sold with its] Original Box and Manual. But belief sometimes must be beggared.

  1. People do sell (and buy) original packaging.
  2. The price on the auction was $120. IPhone at the time of that auction cost $500+. Whatever buyer thought he was buying an iPhone for $120 was fooling himself, not being fooled.

Republicans have taken victim blaming to a whole new level. Is there any crime people aren’t at fault for being a victim of?

Terr, I note that you’ve not answered a bunch of direct questions, instead choosing to rephrase things as a politician would do, hewing to talking points. You’re welcome to try again.