Uh, this is the bad thing. America has lost permanent prestige and Trump has already weakened our commitment to our allies. The shutdown is one of the results of Russia helping to install an incompetent moron in the Whitehouse. You are experiencing the bad thing.
The State Department is shut down. The federal courts are about to run out of money.
Also, the American public only have so much outrage to go around, and it’s all being spent on the shutdown. There’s barely any left to protest Trump’s lifting of sanctions on Deripaska, for example.
I can’t remember the guy’s name but shortly after Discover Card was started up he had a routine that went something like, “Discover. Yeah, they got that named right. See, after I’d had it a while I discovered I’d run up $8,000, then they discovered I can’t pay for all that stuff, then I discovered they don’t like that, so now they’re trying to discover where I’ve moved to.”
Wow these Putin comments are just silly. So every time a kid in America falls and skins his knee Putin takes delight and thus benefits in some intangible way? What about dogs getting hit by cars? Dropping your ice cream?
Strawman much? Our government is paralyzed, and its power to maintain foreign relations and conduct diplomacy is diminished (State Department shut down, etc). How does this not benefit Russia?
According to recent news articles, Trump’s approval rating has gone down, but not much. It looks like a solid 40% approve of him and what he is doing. While the news services try to emphasize that 40% is less than a majority, I find it disheartening that such a large contingency thinks that (1) a wall is needed, and (2) a shutdown is a good thing. How long can you stick to these claims if your family is starving, your house is in foreclosure and your car is being repossessed?
If it didn’t benefit Putin, he (Putin) would have ended it by now.
What is the opposite of a euphemism? Some sort of term for a thing that makes something relatively benign sound horrible? Because that’s what the phrase “government shutdown” is. The government is NOT shut down. They are still collecting taxes, enforcing laws, infringing on my liberties, and wasting my money. And with the added function of trying to scare the pants off of all of us to make us think the government is necessary in the first place.
To answer the OP, I’m getting the small benefit of laughing my ass off while the government tries to look relevant, while actually demonstrating how unnecessary most of their functions are.
GOP platform.Point Break movie clip. 10 seconds. Wraps it up quite well.
A lot of Federal computer systems are not being properly seen to.
E.g., web site certificates are expiring. I expect domain names to expire as well here and there.
Without a full set of sysadmins constant monitoring, various people will be up to Very Bad Things. Putin is just one of many people that are likely taking advantage of this mess to browse databases, install malware, etc.
Also, with food inspections going away, now is the time for the sleazier companies to push out some “products” they would otherwise throw away. Yeah, profit.:dubious:
What has been going on the last couple years is a dream come true for Putin. And it keeps getting better and better.
Happy? Several world leaders including the obvious choice mentioned shortly after the thread began.
Benefits? A lot of us unhappy and neutral ones who lean left. This is just another reason we’ll be able to pretty much run anyone (except Hillary for POTUS) for just about any office in two years and win with the few exceptions where the Republicans have total control. Look for us to have the WH, Senate and House after all this plays out.
Title and payday loan people are probably making coin, and they’re happy to let those interest charges pile up.
I pretty much disagree with your entire post. Putin is no chess master, even compared to the obvious idiot WE have in charge. He’s a thug with delusions of grandeur. NATO isn’t moving ‘east’, if by that you mean towards Russia…geez man, just the opposite. Asian countries aren’t moving towards China. Not because of anything our idiot in charge has done, and pretty obviously rejecting the TPP was stupid, but because of China’s own actions they are basically pushing them back toward us or, if anything, into alliances with other powers in the region.
I agree that Trump has been a disaster, and that anything that hurts us (as this shutdown is hurting us) would be good for Putin and Xi et al, but you are really overboard in this post. To put it another way, if Obama was still president we’d be so far ahead of the game that China and Russia would be looking at serious damage control. As it is, with our current handicap, they are just keeping their own heads above water. Hell, they might not be benefitting from the shutdown as others have suggested because this might be the deathblow of the guy keeping them in the game.
Myself, in answer to the OP, I’d say the banks and credit card companies are getting a small non-zero benefit from the shutdown. Other than that it’s a major fail all around.
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I would expect that the majority of Americans have seen no negative impacts personally from the government shut down, and thus following your logic when asked, they could easily do without most of these government programs.
Criminals in general. Not just because the FBI is letting some trails go colder, but because general neer-do-wellers are going to have an easier time when there’s less oversight and enforcement of things. Someone trying to grow pot in a national park, for example.
Companies that compete with things that rely on Federal spending. Non-airplane travel is looking a bit better in comparison to air travel these days, with the longer lines due to TSA blue flu. I don’t know if there are private museums in DC, but I bet they’re doing a brisker business while the Smithsonian is shut down. etc.
The deep-pocketed in general. People with fewer assets who rely on the federal government for things are going to be forced into selling things on short notice if things to on too much longer. Someone who can afford to is going to get some bargains.
Some foreign policy experts have a less sanguine view than you about the trend of U.S. prestige under Trump: Cite.
Without wishing to engage on whether it is applicable to this situation, the factual answer to your question is dysphemism.
I would guess that the “build the wall” crowd is not happy about that…
Currently, we have over 400,000 government employees working without pay, which is dampening the blow. It’s a truism in American politics that the redder the state, the more dependent it is in support deform the federal government and Trumpland would suffer greatly without federal support.