:::applause:::
Seriously, that was brilliant; no sarcasm.
And ralph, Jedgar Hoover was not gay.
Whether you believe him is another matter - over the years plenty of conspiracy theorists have tried to question his reliability (unfairly IMHO) - but the fact that you seem never to have heard of him speaks volumes. He is, for obvious reasons, one of the most famous of all the witnesses in the case.
It does. Do you have the impression that it was exactly centered? We know that it came out in the very middle of his neck, so if it was straight, that means it would have passed through his spinal cord, right? But it didn’t - the bullet entered to the right of his spinal cord, so that it hit no bones passing through.
Also, it didn’t need to be a very severe angle, because Elm Street curves away from the TSBD, so the car was pointed mostly away from Oswald’s position.
I didn’t think you could still amaze me, Starving, but you’ve managed. After expressing vehement opinions on a subject, you now admit you know nothing about it.
Here’s my double-dog-dare to you. From now on either learn the facts before you join the debate or enter the conversation by admiting your ignorance and learn something.
But being 105 years old, I don’t figure I have enough time left to assume the burden of your education.
I’ve been to the area and looked out the window that Oswald supposedly shot from.
From that distance I think I could have hit him with a rock.
Yeah, Hoffa was a bad guy, we can tolerate some conspiracy around his murder. But not for the others, they were all good guys.
Well, let’s see. Ronald Reagan was a popular guy. The “conventional wisdom” is that John Hinckley, acting alone, shot Reagan and several other people.
Naturally, I’m not buying that one.
Just having a bit of trouble with Hoffa was “clearly” a mob hit, while the others “clearly” acted on their own. It’s not clear to me.
Why, by any stretch of our imaginations, couldn’t Hoffa have been killed by a lone gunman too?
Oh OK, some mob guy says “he did it”, OK, now the truth is known. :rolleyes:
Perhaps the first line from your second link will provide the answer. To wit: “After a score of years I have decided to tell my story. Some may wonder why. Certainly I had every opportunity to do so in 1963.”
Unlike some here, once I began to recognize the Warren Commission was hooey, and the truth was not to be known for a long time it ever, I stopped following developments regarding the assassination closely.
I thank you for the link though.
In other news, I continue to be astonished at the number of people here who pick and choose the frames of the Zapruder film they feel will bolster their view without apparently taking the entire secuence into account. This clearly shows Kennedy’s head being struck a more or less glancing blow to the right side of his head as he slumps toward Jackie, with his head being driven upwards and to his left, with his body following to the point his left shoulder just crests the boot of the convertible top.
I’ve always wondered - who really shot McKinley?
Just out of curiosity. Have you ever read the Warren Report - cover to cover?
No, but once news reports came out that their conclusion was that Oswald assassinated Kennedy, while the Zapruder film clearly puts this conclusion to the lie, I saw no point.
Cite?
For someone who has strong opinions about books he hasn’t read and movies he hasn’t seen, it shouldn’t be surprising that he thinks he knows what’s in a report he refuses to read.
SA, you really need to step back a moment and consider what your credibility level is here, and whose fault that really is.
Your tone is probably turning off some people here, but I’ll stick with this. Can you point to precisely which frames you’re talking about? What frames show a glancing blow to the right? Because the film I’ve seen shows the top right side of his head exploding outwards. And I see his body moving to the left, but I didn’t notice it driven upwards.
And what does the phrase “crests the boot” mean?
You say “clearly shows,” but what you say is certainly not clear to me. I’d appreciate some specifics.
Crests the boot.
Crest - The top, as of a hill or wave.
The highest or culminating point; the peak: the crest of a flood; at the crest of her career
Boot-either the trunk, in England’s english, or the convertible parts folded up, in American english. Both of which apply here.
Oh, please. I know for a fact you have strong opinions you have no first hand knowledge to substantiate. Everyone does. If I see someone get shot and their head, blood and brains get blown away in such a way as to make it obvious the bullet came front in front of and to their right, I don’t have to read a report by a bureaucratic, hide-the-facts commission to know it’s wrong.
So are you saying that since the top right side of his head was blown out, that this is evidence the shot came from the front right?
I’d really like you to be specific in what you’re saying, because saying it’s “obvious” doesn’t cut it.
Sorry about the tone, it isn’t intended to be offensive, just succinct.
Well, first of all the frames I referred to are the ones posted by others here to illustrate that my analysis of his head shot are wrong. I think you may be misinterpreting also what I mean by a glancing blow. When you look at the film as it’s running as opposed to talking about an individual frame, it’s apparent that Kennedy, after having been shot in the neck, brings his hands up to his neck and begins to slump toward Jackie. As his head moves toward her and downwardly, his head is hit very forcefully by a bullet that seems to have perhaps been intended to hit him in the middle of the forehead, but because of his leftward movement it hits him hard on the right side of his head, apparently in the area just above his ear or thereabouts.
When I view the film, his head and body appear to be driven forcefully upward and to the left rear.
If you look at the top of his left shoulder, it is driven upwardly and back to the point that it rises to a level even with or just above the boot covering the convertible top.
OK, the devil’s advocate hat is coming off. I am voluntarily banning myself from GD and the Pit.
I just wanted to make sure all of you have seen this parody:
http://home.earthlink.net/~javanut99/Oswald.jpg
Goodnight 