If that’s the case, then it’s definitely most (basing this on the preview of next week). But I think it has nothing to do with those votes – they either choose the worst of the worst (and having extra Scared cards just for suspense and drama) or they choose from the bottom 2 or 3 the victim that would make for best TV to die that week.
Not necessarily… the players interact with each other and it’s possible to pick up clues from observing everyone’s behavior. In a sense, this is like The Mole where the killer must still try to act like a regular player. This is fun for both players and TV audience alike since it’s fun to eyeball everyone and try to figure out who is pretending.
Next episode’s victim running for the golf cart might have been the funniest thing I see this week. Because you can totally escape a determined, resourceful killer in a golf cart.
Man, if that’s a trend, it could cause some hilarity.
Dim Contestant:“I think the golf cart was a ruse, she was hit by lightning” Producer: “Crap, how are we supposed to control the weather for this one?”
EDIT: although if you know you’ve bungled it, time to guess death by snu-snu
This show is utterly mindless, the puzzles are trivial, a lot of the contestants are acting like terrible people and I haven’t enjoyed a reality show like this since Paradise Island. I love it deeply and I hate myself for that. The fact that I have to torrent it makes it even worse.
I am a terrible, terrible failure as a person.
The fact that the network actually received so many complaints from viewers who thought that the murders were real that they had to edit to include an interview snippet makes it even worse.
I think they made a mistake bumping off the contestant they did, though - the three people who made up their group were acting like entitled jackholes and alienating everyone around them. Basic reality show theory says that they need to be kept around as long as humanly possible.
And yes, my money’s on Don as the hero who fails in his service to humanity by coming up two corpses short at the end.
Wow, this was a surprise…I recorded the first episode completely on a whim, thought it had potential, then recorded the second…and good lord, I actually like this!
The important thing is that you not think of this as reality TV. It’s more like amateur theater, where the contestants have to act like they’re in an actual murder mystery and their lives are really in danger. Think of it like modern pro wrestling, the strange quasi-reality where you know deep down it’s supposed to be a work, but you can’t be 100% sure.
I haven’t bothered trying to follow the mystery. The show just doesn’t reveal enough, and there’s no reason it couldn’t pull a convenient reversal in the future. I prefer to just follow the story and not really care to much who gets axed.
It’s great that there’s no stupid braying studio audience, no one’s been incredibly obnoxious yet, and it’s interesting seeing the on-the-fly strategies and thought processes. It’s one of the very few games I’ve seen that seems to strike a good balance between luck and skill, and it’ll be interesting to see how it plays out.
P.S. I get the feeling that Giles, for all his supposed fears, really enjoys what he’s doing.
This is an old format from a very long time ago. The UK put this show out originally, most famously hosted by Jon Pertwee, the Third Doctor Who.
Australia recently attempted a sort of celebrity comedian remake, called Sleuth 101, though the clues were so difficult to figure out that it was all host guidance and no celebrity sleuthing. It also suffered from Murder Party syndrome, which is that anybody could’ve done it and it ends up just being random.
Another episode down, another contestant ‘dead’. Plot centric comments spoilered for those on the west-coast.
Well, I was hoping Dana would go, as she’s just annoying. Don, while bumbling, was at least likable. And I had him as an outside shot as the killer.
But what a stupid, stupid way for him to go. “Oh, hmm, i just got raw steak, better go into the kitchen all by myself and cook it”. At give the guy some credit, producers. Not to mention, while a cougar is no picnic to fight with, if you’re in a kitchen I think the chances of the cougar actually killing you is pretty low. Unless it nicked an artery/vein with the first swipe, there’s too much stuff in the kitchen you could use to fight off an angry cat. Braining it with the frying pan would have been my first choice.
I like the crimesolving and riddles in this one, although I’m a little annoyed at the over-played Kam’s team vs. Ronnie’s team hijinks. Lindsay is asking to get alienated by both groups - I think Kam will take her back but Ronnie’s group probably isn’t.
The door remote was a good red herring.
Ronnie is asking to get himself alienated - he didn’t tell anyone in his group the stuff he learned in the attic. I think he’s jumping to conclusions too fast, and then not sharing what he started from with his group. That’s going to screw more people over. Better to share the evidence with everyone and then puzzle out the riddle instead of sharing your conclusion and hiding the evidence.
Kam is getting the ‘cocky asshole’ edit, but I think he’s in this one for the long run - he’s pretty smart, and Ulysses, despite his ‘whoa, huh?’ attitude, is sharper than he lets on. If Cris can get the info from the third location, or Lindsay becomes a full Kam-group member, I think the three/four of them last a long time. The Ronnie/Geno/Melina/Sasha/Dana group is a bunch of morons.
And no spoilers needed for this: Giles’ puns are the best.
In little print for a half second or so during the credits they say that the spared/scared picks are based on a WRITTEN test about the crime. So all those clips of contestants pacing about the interview room and making their accusations and so forth are just stage dressing.
I have no idea at all who to suspect. Considering that my first two suspect are already dead…
Oh, and next week should show a shake up in format. Who wants to look at the last known place? Um, that’s either the dining room table (which everybody was already at) OR the kitchen. Which is also the scene of the crime.
I really love the hate-boners that Kam and Geno have for each other. It really does kind of bug me that there are currently no clues as to the killer’s identity, so everybody’s just guessing based on who they hate. But at least it’s entertaining.
My understanding is that it was based on both the spoken accusations and the written exam - so the pacing and yapping is not merely stage dressing but is not the whole story. I’ll have to rewatch for the text at the bottom.
That was my thought as well. I could see them being ‘crime scene’, ‘morgue’ and ‘inspect the cat’.
Yea, as stated upthread we’re basically getting nothing about the identity of the killer, just how they kill people. Unless someone was actively misleading people, there’s not much to go on in the interactions with the contestants. The only real misleading we’ve seen was Geno’s ill-fated “let’s tell them the medallion is from some other saint”, which I think confused him more than anyone else, and Ronnie’s “Let’s play games with Lindsay and see if we can screw up Kam”.
That being said, I like Kam, but I’d like him more if he toned down the antagonism.
Agreed. He seems to be a smart, solid investigator who knows what he needs to know and finds a way to learn it. And I don’t disagree that he’s getting the bad-guy-edit because this is reality television–it just annoys the hell out of me that I’m doing exactly what the producers want by disliking him.
Early on the contestants realized they wouldn’t really be able to solve the deaths on their own, so alliances quickly sprouted. I think it would be a better idea, particularly for Lindsay, to just strait-up trade info for info. No loyalty or personal battles, just “I’ll show you my candlestick card if you show me your Prof. Plum card.”
Anyway, I don’t know which is funnier, the ridiculous murder methods, the silly infighting, or the way even the smartest seem to fall for every red herring.
I like the misdirection with the mountain lion, but wouldn’t the cyanide have killed the lion as well as Don? I think I would have liked a poison dart or something better, but I guess that would have left too little to the imagination.
I’m impressed with Ronnie and Geno. I had them pegged as morons but they got the relevant clues.
Lindsay is pretty well tied to Kam now. I knew he’d take her back.
I’m a little annoyed that Team Kam (minus Kam… where was he?) let Sasha tag along while they looked in the closets. If they had stopped her, Team Ronnie would never have gotten the clue. Of course, with Ronnie knowing the stove was rigged and Dana figuring out the cyanide, it would have been interesting to see who’d get the scared cards.
Ulysses was always kinda cluelessly tagging along, so I’m not surprised he’s out. I am a little miffed because I liked Team Kam. It’s funny how he and Geno still have hate-boners for each other.
We didn’t see much of Melina in this episode. But despite that, I’m wondering if I should change my guess to Cris being the killer. She’s the one that brought Lindsay over to overhear the conversations (maybe because she has the room bugged?). She helped with the ‘freeze Lindsay out’ plan. She seems to hang in the background and not help much, but always does well. We don’t see much of her in the “tell us how you did it” segments. hmm…
My wife thinks it’s Kam. Apparently, on another board someone tried to put together the killer from where they were at the time of the killing. Apparently when the first death happened, only Adrianna and Kam were outside. (So that points to Kam) When Adrianna got blown up, the killer was in the attic, and we didn’t get a camera shot of Kam leaving his bedroom. Since the killer pressed the fire alarm, s/he would have been one of the first ones out the door, since s/he would already be up, dressed, etc, and apparently Kam was one of the first out the door.
Now, I haven’t gone back to look at old episodes to confirm any of this, but it does make a convincing case. Then again, clever editing on the part of the producers could make that a red herring as well.
