OK, yeah, you really don’t get Hulk.
I see what you’re saying, & in principle you have a point. But Ang Lee’s movie was thematically wandering & added a lot of crud on top of the source material, so I think it is possible to do a better job. It remains to be seen whether they have.
I get that he’s been a lame character, IMO, since I first saw the character when I was a child in the 60’s. The badly animated cartoons from that time didn’t change that opinion. The awful TV series with Bill Bixby didn’t change that opinion. The odd comic book I picked up in the 70’s and 80’s with Hulk in them didn’t change that opinion. The Ang Lee movie was probably the only thing with Hulk as the main character that I ever liked at all.
I get the character. I just think it’s lame.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who is completely un-wowed by the trailer and the CGI. They’ve made the Hulk uglier than ever.
Does Hulk talk? He’s supposed to. That’s was separates him from monsters.
Ironically, the only speech sound bites I’ve heard so far have him saying “ME WANT COOKIE!” and “OM nom nom nom nom!”
Seconded. I recently saw some new clips/trailers that showed the Hulk with the “crushed car boxing gloves” that they had in the Hulk: Ultimate Destruction video game. That’s pure game marketing, and freakin’ absurd. What works in video games does not necessarily work in the movies, people.
That’s just not true. The recent Iron Man was fairly true to Tony Stark as he was portrayed in Ultimates, and certainly Ultimate Thor is a lot less lame (ha!) and more interesting (to me) than regular Thor, with the Jesus overtones. Plus he was yummy! And Ultimates Wasp is more interesting and rounded than the 3rd string original. Plus the whole investigation of what it would actually mean that Cap fast-forwarded 60 years to an alien culture is very well done, IMO.
In fact, I’d say Ultimate Ant-Man/Giant Man is the only one who really gets the short end, but he was never that interesting to start off with. And as for Ultimate Hulk? He’s exactly what I’d imagine an out-of-control id to be like. Easily led and out-of-control. And he totally fucks up the Abomination because of it. That’s Zen for you.
Like I said, Iron Man was there, only with “damaged heart” rather than “tumour”. We’ll see what Hulk and Captain America are like.
I loved the early '90s Captain America but I was 10 or so when I saw it last.
Er, the movie Iron Man had way, way more to do with the 616 Tony Stark than his Ultimate counterpart. The only thing they really took from the Ultimate version was the modern take on Tony’s playboy persona, which was just an updated version of his Comics Code-approved antics in the 60’s.
His origin, his armor, Obediah Stahne, Pepper Potts, and pretty much everything else was pure 616 Shellhead.
I also strongly, strongly disagree with Ultimate anyone being even remotely as interesting as their 616 counterparts, and agree that there’s absolutely no way we’re going to see anything resembling the Ultimates on the big screen.
Ah, no. The Hulk is not going to EAT PEOPLE on the big screen. That would quite possibly kill the entire comic line right there, when parents take their children to a summer action flick and come out seeing a gory cannibalism scene. Actually, the movie would have been rated R for it.
“Hulk nosh!”
I liked Peter David’s take on the Hulk…that despite decades of insistence to the contrary, the Hulk and puny Banner really are the same person. A movie about a guy who sometimes vanishes and is replaced by a green monster isn’t very interesting. Bruce Banner as a monster who has managed to repress his monstrous nature his entire life is much more interesting.
As for Ultimate Hulk, one part I really liked is when they had a 9/11 style memorial for the victims of the Hulk Incident. I mean, if the Hulk really is an out of control monster, you’d think that hundreds of people would be dead as a result of him smashing buildings and crushing puny humans. Even if Hulk isn’t vicious he’s going to kill people all day every day just by accident. Standard Marvel Universe Hulk somehow manages to avoid hurting anyone, even people who shoot at him. That just doesn’t make any sense.
I agree. The problem is that he can never be allowed to come to terms or move on with his emotions, because then there’d be less “tension.” Which is too bad.
Kinda. The “normal” Hulk isn’t actually very violent; he just has no “civilized” limits on his behavior except that he wears pants. He’s basically a total barbarian, not a monster. When he gets mad, he actually just hits whatever made him mad, but generally he is seriously provoked into hurting people. Of course, bullets only annoy him very slightly.
HA! Thanks for that. What a payoff!
What about Samuel Jackson as Nick Fury?
My theatre exploded in screaming when he came on, now tell me agian about we’ll never see any “Ultimates” elements in the movies.
Who would you get to play Fury? David Hasselhoff?