Which I have gone into in three different posts. That line of mine was a mere side comment on the slide of the thread into back-and-forth about other details (continuing currently about Eleanor Roosevelt fake quotes and Libertarians, I wanna see where it drifts next…)
I’d like to clarify this. White democrats have been trying to group Hispanics with Black descendants of US chattel slavery, under the so-called black-brown coalition, for years now. They thought the groups would vote the same since they are both seen as not white in US society. White Democrats though Hispanics would be like the Black vote due to their own prejudice. That is why they are so shocked. I knew it would not go that way and tried to tell this board so of course I was not surprised that they went to Trump.
That was a mistake as there is no such thing as a black-brown coalition as I’ve been saying for years now, and Trump was able to exploit that and grab well over half of latino men, and 20% of young black men that have forgotten the lessons of our elders.
Each group preferring to fight each other, young black men wanting latinos, specifically of Mexican decent, deported, and latinos wanting whatever their out group is to be deported. Looks like Venezuelans.
Both groups fell right into to the old play book of divide and conquer that both capitalists and white supremacists use, not realizing that Maga hates them all.
They are about to find out.
This is simply not true.
It is true, they have been doing this for years, either black-brown coalition or people of color, I’ve heard both terms used.
Whatever you want to call it, Democrats thought they had that vote locked.
I’ve certainly never heard the term “black-brown coalition” before.
I think the Democrats simply gave people too much credit for self-preservation and competence, and didn’t think so many people would vote for their own persecution.
Thats why I’ve been trying to educate this board, from a black perspective. You may be more familiar with the term “people of color”. White democrats thought “people of color” would never vote for Trump and Maga since it’s clear that Maga is a white supremacy movement.
The black-brown coalition thing is more what is said to black people by the Democratic party when talking to a mostly black crowd.
Googling, it’s more the other way around and the term originated among black activists.
No, I’m talking about how it’s used now. You won’t hear any mainstream media talking about a black-brown coalition, they will say “people of color”. It’s aimed at black people but it’s not effective anymore.
It may have started out with black activists seeing hispanics as kindred spirits, but that is long dead. Only Democratic politicians use or believe in that that term now.
I’m sure they advised Harris that it was real though, so they thought they had “people of color” in the bag.
I should be a political advisor, I explained part of Trumps strategy right here on this board, when the board was dumbfounded. He had YouTube and podcast advisors and won
No, I think they just assumed that those groups weren’t going to vote for their own ethnic cleansing.
No, these groups that voted for Trump don’t understand, that’s what I’ve been saying. I’ll only speak about young black men on this, Hispanics are on some other thing. They have forgotten the lessons of our elders, since they are far removed from them now.
I tried to tell them Maga is going to come after us as well, and while we probably won’t get deported, things are going to get bad for us. Like no more protests against police brutality, its not going to be tolerated und this Maga administration.
I’m 52 so they were basically just saying shut up old man Trumps going to deport the Mexicans and gas is going to be $1 a gallon.
Which ties in to what I said, the Democrats overestimated them. They “don’t understand” because they are fools, if they can’t recognize the incredibly blatant awfulness, incompetent and bigotry of Trump then they are outright blind to reality and were never going to vote based on it. The Democrats respected their base too much.
Yes, they did overestimate, but they were badly advised. They clearly did not understand the demographic change, but I mean if I, a nobody, could see what was happening and why then what was their problem? They are probably being paid millions to see theses kind of changes and respond to it with an effective message.
The Democratic party is out of touch with the times, and I’m not saying that Harris should have gone on Rogan’s show.
They do need to flip the script; they have great ideas but they are not communicating them. I don’t blame Harris, she only had like 100 days and the election was far closer than is being portrayed.
She needed better advisors, the ones she had were out of touch and running an old playbook. She could have won latinos and young black men without a hateful Maga message.
The acronym BIPOC is one that I’ve seen used more often over the last few years. It means black, indigineous, and people of color. The first time I remember seeing it I remember thinking it was odd because a lot of disparate groups were being lumped into one. Depending on where you look, some argue it’s being used to acknowledge that not all people of color face the same levels of discrimination, but to me it says the opposite as it just lumps everyone together. Basically it’s just anyone who isn’t white.
Someone’s trying to lump them all together.
The Right is, and does. The error many people in those groups made when voting for Trump is refusing to believe that. And the error Democrats made was in assuming those people wouldn’t be that stupid.
And if we throw in LBQT+, etc we get all the people the MAGAs are bigoted against and hate. Hmm.
Yup. Leopards, meet faces:
Trump will prioritize deportations for people who may have criminal associations, who have been denied asylum, or who come from “countries of foreign concern,” such as China and Nicaragua, Homan said, adding that America’s intelligence agencies will help identify and locate those targets and immigration agents will arrest them. But “no one’s off the table,” Homan told The Center Square, raising the possibility that Trump will target families or other undocumented immigrants who have lived and worked for many years in the US.
I don’t think it’s the right that started and uses BIPOC. I hate to pull a “both sides” here, but I think lots of people have a habit of lumping disparate groups together because it makes it easier to build a narrative.
Well gee. You’re not only “lumping them all together “ but you’re calling them all stupid. And you wonder why you’re losing them.
Well, republicans seems to have little in the way of discernment when it comes time to distinguish one PoC from another. And, people who voted for them may well get swept up in the republican zeal to be rid of PoC so yeah, that does not seem smart.
Many Jews voted for Hitler.
I know exactly why: because they are some mix of evil, ignorant or stupid. Like every single other Trump voter. They either knowingly voted for a vile man who would persecute them which makes them both evil and stupid, or they did it without knowing which makes them either stupid or ignorant. It is not possible for someone to have voted for Trump without that being a condemnation of themselves, the only question is what they deserve to be condemned for. Claiming that they were knowingly evil and self destructive isn’t the defense of them you apparently think it is.
But they didn’t do it because they had the psychic powers to see what a poster would say on a message board weeks after they demonstrated that they are a mix evil, ignorant and stupid.