For whatever reason, the conventional gospels state his betrayal, the gospel of Judas states some higher level plan, it appears he lost divine protection, perhaps willingly, perhaps not. Without divine protection and mercy our world is unbearable and he needed to exit it through death.
It is my belief that it would almost take arch-angelic ability to be able to stand in our world without divine protection, the gospel of Judas seems to indicate that Judas was a ‘advanced soul’ from what I have heard of it and may be at that level.
Even in the conventional gospels Judas is called by Jesus a ‘devil’, which is a very powerful level being. As I take it demon = fallen angel, devil = fallen arch angel.
Scriptures use a different word for devil and demon, so they are different beings.
Matt 25:41 states the ‘Devil and his angels’ which would seem to indicate that the devil is in command, on a higher level, then the angels.
In Rev 12:7-9 you see a direct comparison of 2 armies, Arch Angel Micheal and his angels vs. Satan and his angels.
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7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
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Interestingly enough the exact same verse you refuse to acknowledge that ID’s the serpent in the Garden of Eden as Satan
All that, and you still didn’t answer the question I asked.
If you are still on that “Satan was in the Garden of Eden” kick, take note that while Ron Jeremy is known as “The Hedgehog”, that doesn’t mean that hundreds of porn actresses slept with a small mammal. A serpent tempted Adam and Eve-The Serpent(a nickname for Satan) was a protagonist in the Final book of the Bible. The next time you check the IDs of your bad guys, try to notice that a serpent has no arms or legs and slithers on the ground, while The Serpent doesn’t.
edited to add: The word is “Archangel”, not “Arch Angel”, and his name is “Michael”, not “Micheal”.
You really would think that Jesus (with his God hat on) would give poor Judas a break when he died, being as it was part of the divine plan for him to drop the dime on his master. Instead he ends up being gnawed on eternally by the devil like a hairy popsicle (see Dante).
I know what the hell it means-but(and I suppose it was to be expected) your saying it made no sense. In no way, shape or form did I thank you for your contribution to this conversation.
You asked me where I got it from. I showed you, also pointed out that historically you have had a hard time with that section in the past, which a typical reply would be to thank me, and my reply to that would be your welcome.
It also appears that you may still having trouble with that section so may I suggest perhaps more study as we will continue to repeat thing till we learn.
I’m sure you are aware of the typical response to this statement, but I’ll make it anyways for others: “The Egyptians have been shown to cover up the existence of at least one Pharaoh. Their history books rarely portray Egypt in a bad light, covering up the negative.” Whether that last part is true, I’ll let more knowledgeable people debate.
I assume you are also aware that the question given in the OP requires taking the stories as given, in the same way that asking a question about Star Trek technology requires imagining that their stories are real. Oh, and that Ramses II is an extra-Biblical addition to the story–the Pharaoh himself is left unnamed.
I’m sure he will when you do likewise. You may dispute his explanation, but he did answer the question you specifically asked. The conversation can’t continue until you explain what you find wanting in his explanation, and your lack of desire to do so would tend to indicate that discussion with you is not possible.
I also must laugh at the irony of you objecting to a sarcastic and dismissive reply.
Again: the Bible does not claim that Pharoah drowned. His army (or the portion of his army pursuing the Israelites) drowned, but the text does not specifically say that Pharoah was also. I like the way it was portrayed in The Prince of Egypt.
A verse saying that Satan used to be an archangel would be in order, along with one stating that the angels that fought along side him became demons. The idea that Satan was a fallen angel perhaps came from Luke 10:18(“And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven”), but this could also be interpreted as “Satan fell, in much the same way that lightning falls from Heaven”, instead of “Satan fell from heaven, like lightning falls.” I(and many others) have also pointed out the vast difference between the serpent described in Genesis, and The Serpent(and also referred to as The Dragon) in Revelation.
As Judas was under 18 at the time, could he even legally have purchased property?
Didn’t the laws of Rome/Israel have requirements for being of the age of majority before being able to make such a contract? I know under current laws a minor can’t make a valid contract, and I understood that legal concept came from way back.
So there seem to be some holes in the story in Acts, besides it’s contradiction to other parts.