Whoa, that one dude has a wicked sunburn! Ouch!
I do think it’s sad that there is a NEED for something like a “gay” day-hopefully, someday, we’ll see it like being left handed or having red hair.
But sadly, I can’t see that happening in my life time.
http://www.christianaction.org/CAN.news.story.asp?key=488
If this guy is to be believed, Disney employees at least wouldn’t let him film Gay Day events. Though he may well have been making an ass out of himself in ways he didn’t related. In any case, whatever footage he is going to release sure isn’t going to play well for the peeps in Peoria.
Ya know what? I betcha the kissing and hugging occured in actual public, but the rest occured in night clubs the Gay Days people had reserved for their own use. Its the same thing they do with Gay Pride Parades… the media, let alone the Christian media, takes the 5 bar floats and the two people marching from NAMBLA, then forget to show the dozens of other groups who actually make up most of the parade.
Everytime I see a thread title like this, I think:
Why are some straight people so obsessed with everything gay people do? Gay people want to have sex in their own home. Well, we can’t have that, so let’s pass a law against it, convict them, then appeal the case all the way to the SC. Gay people want to get married. Well, we can’t have that, so let’s pass an amendment against it. Gay people want to show up at Disney World. Well, we can’t have that, so let’s film it, post it on the internet, start a thread against it.
Sometimes I think straight people think about gay sex more than I do. And I think about it a lot.
As a patriotic Brit, I should just say I think we should all be kind to one another and I don’t think there should be any special designated day to be American.
Your Thanksgiving, Indepence Day celebrations etc are divisive because they emphasise the differences between nations. Americans should not have the right to flaunt themselves in this way (and should stay in the closet).
Many hetero people including myself feel uncomfortable at open displays of gay affection… but then we see these very few times openly. If it were considered normal we wouldnt gape.
So in general they should be open about it as much as they can… hold hands, etc… Eventually it might be considered normal.
One of my first girlfriends didnt like open displays of affection between me and her. We never held hands or gave one another pecker, small kisses or affection whatsoever in public. I thought it was horrible. I am very caring and I normally give my girlfriends a lot of tenderness.... so going thru this "dont touch, dont kiss" routine made me understand how Gays probably "date". They might be wanting to touch, kiss, caress... but they cant. Its HORRIBLE. That is how I learned how to sympathise with the gay "condition".
I’d rather they have the same freedoms we do and feel comfortable about their sexuality. Even if it bothers me somewhat.
Welcome to the SDMB, Rashak, and may I commend you on a very empathic post!
At the same time, I have to pick on one unfortunate choice of wording, which I’ve bolded in your post. That word being slang for penis in much of the country, I’d say it’s quite reasonable of her not to want you to give her it in public! 
Hhhmm… I meant to say a quick kiss with no tongue lashing around. Oooppss. Well I hope most understood it that way at least.
We have a saying here that people hear/read what they like … so take care Polycarp. 
Thanks for the Welcome. Trying out a new forum for some good debating.
Still what I wrote is true… I might not like seeing it but I have no right to restrict it. Once in a while a female friend of mine and I go to dance in a gay club where the DJ is very good. For the first 30 minutes all the gay kissing bothers me a bit… but then it just becomes “normal”. In fact I was quite surprised at how tender and caring those kisses were. I used to beleive that most gays were kind of libertine and sexually perverted … wrongly so.
I think people just want to be happy. Be it gay or straight or religious. So let them be... as much as its possible anyway. I'd rather have a openly gay son than a frustrated and angry closet gay son. Thou as a good latin american of course I'd rather have a straight son/daughter...The word you were looking for is “peck.” Bem-vindo!
Peck ! Obrigado Chula… (You speak portuguese ?)
Havent used these english expressions in a long time so the memory fails a lot.
The only cool thing I ever got when I IPO’d my homo stock was a little teddy bear from my parents. Why they thought I’d like a teddy bear I don’t know . . . although it was a fabulous bear . . .
I suspect it’s jealousy. 
Why are heterosexuals so fascinated with it? Because it’s /different/, it’s weird and intriguing and fascinating as a result.
For another tack on the debate, I recently went on a bit of a drinking session with a gay chum of mine from work and his boyfriend, and - whilst their displays of affection didn’t ‘ick’ me, per se - they did elicit in me an almost uncontrollable urge to laugh, doubtless because it made me uncomfortable - because it was weird and different. They were very physical, it was like seeing a couple of good friends play-fight but also get smoochy.
Point is, I can’t /control/ my discomfort, and can only control my reaction to a limited extent. I appreciate the only answer is to accept the discomfort is your own problem, and not transfer blame to the cause.
It’s the same for lesbians, if I see some pretty ladies getting all nuzzly, I get some pretty good unbridled lust going on, and some gawking is inevitable despite my best intentions (and especially when I’ve had a bit to drink). It’s when I’m scolded for having either of the above reactions that gets /my/ goat.
Incidentally, gay bars are pretty much like normal bars, except with terrible, terrible music. The high-point of the night was the much-vaunted-by-my-gay-chum ‘lesbian-fights’ that began to start around chucking out time.
Its the same when you see a much older woman with a young man… its not “ordinary” and people stare. When you see a girl full of piercings all over her face… or when a mohican haired punk walks down the street.
Morbid curiosity and notions of normality.
That’s about the damn funniest thing I ever read.
–Cliffy
Isabelle and scule - I don’t think you’re being intentionally homophobic, but you are, at a certain level. Accepting difference means accepting difference, not acting as if it’s all the same. Maybe one day it will be, but for now it is a very different experience to be a homosexual in our society than it is to be straight.
I care. It is an issue. It does matter.
Here’s why:
My daughter’s school reported us to social services because of my ‘lifestyle.’ Their report, which social services showed me they were so amazed at the school’s behaviour, was full of homophobic terms. My daughter has been discriminated against by her own teacher because I am gay. My bisexual neighbour was reported to social services by her sister when she found out that she had a GF.
On Saturday, a relation of my neighbour threatened to come round and forcefully convert me. ‘You’d be OK if you took it up the arse,’ ‘you suck my cock and that’ll change you,’ etc. etc. The same week, an otherwise very nice man spent quite some time insisting that he could lick pussy as well as any woman, and I should try it.
(Apologies for the foul language, it’s not my own).
My date and I got on a bus, slightly drunk and with our arms around each other, and I had the wrong ticket, as did the straight couple in front of us. They were allowed to stay, we were told to get off. (We left hand-in-hand singing ‘Sing If You’re Glad to be Gay!’) She’s also had problems at work, with her boss referring to lesbians as ‘it.’ He doesn’t know about her sexuality, but she feels very uncomfortable there.
This is all in the past month.
I’m still gay. I always will be. That’s not going to change, it’s the world that has to change.
So when I see same-sex couples holding hands or kissing it makes me smile, because they’re not hiding and they’re making it easier for me to be open too. I go to Gay Pride because it’s a way of saying to the bastards who want to convert me or discriminate against me that I am happy with who I am, even if they’re not.
On Saturday, when that bastard was telling me how ‘weird’ and stupid lesbianism was, I was thinking back to Pride the week before, and how I enjoyed it, and the homophobe didn’t have the power to make me feel ashamed.
Just because it’s not an issue for you doesn’t make it a non-issue for everyone else. Unfortunately it is.
SciFiSam… do other lesbians suffer as much discrimination as you do ? Or are you somehow more of a target somehow ? Diferent appearance, attitude or refusal to hide what you are ?
I am quite amazed that you suffered all you describe above… maybe Gay Men are having it easier than Gay Women. My gay friends never described this much discrimination… and the lesbians I work with never mentioned so much hostility.
SciFiSam, that is awful, and my heart goes out to you. I hope things are better for your daughter at school!
Things like that make me sad.
Unfortunately ** SciFiSam**'s experience is not rare. Read and weep, ** Rashak Mani**.
Thanks for the link Homebrew… just because I am a reasonable person… it doesn’t mean the rest tend to be. Gang mentality has made women suffer for ages too…
That was a real eye opener…