Sorry, I was too tired to be my normal volatile and vitrolic self last night. The breeders remark is my basic deal but it goes something like this:
‘If you goddamn breeders could get it through your heads that not every fag worships tragic, pathetic figures, we’d stop seeing straight men as beer swilling, mouth breathing, wife beating, football watching, phlegm.’
Better? :rolleyes:
As opposed to gay men as Absolut-swilling, lip-pursing, bitch-slapping, figure-skating-watching, hair gel . . . 
purses lips Bitch! slap swills absolut applies hair gel and goes back to watching figure skating
Takes a swig of Absolut and sits down with matt to do color commentary on figure skaters’ baskets.
. . . I had the same thought; I almost replaced “football” with “australian football.”
Excuse me, but I thought Cher was the current gay icon. Did I miss something here?
Cher can, like, sing and stuff. I’ve seen Madonna mentioned in a few posts. Madonna can’t sing. She can kind of dance, sort of, I guess. I think the current crop of young gays could have picked a better female icon than a talentless off-key singing bitch who only maintains her popularity by changing her onstage costumes every year, thus creating an artificial “chameleon” image.
Cher rules. Listen to Cher.
Yes, you did. Cher isn’t a singer or actress. She’s an experiment in plastic surgery and silcone.
Cher is passable. Madonna is a talented dancer who was accepted and danced with the Alvin Ailey troupe. She’s a professional and puts on a helluva show. Musically she’s matured quite a bit, and unlike Cher, has worked on her voice and improved her range and phrasing. If you don’t like her, fine, but the off key singing remark is untrue. Amazing how those who don’t care for a singer always seem to call them off key. At least Madonna’s songs have depth. Like A Prayer, Express Yourself, Nothing Really Matters, and many others that she has done have something to say. Cher just sings about love, does retreads of I Will Survive(can we say Strong Enough), and sappy pseudo ballads.
Talent, of course, has nothing to do with Divadom.
It’s not Madonna’s talent that makes her an icon: it’s her role as a symbol; it’s the expression on her face; it’s the character she plays in the grand drama of existence. It only matters that she sings, not how.
I just wanted to say that yes, the whole Streisand, etc. thing is a stereotype, but I wouldn’t be surprised if a gay man said he didn’t like her, and I wouldn’t try to force her on him - especially since I hate her.
One of my best friends loves the hell out of Madonna, and his favorite musical is Starlight Express. He also loves the TV show “Sex and the City” (so do I). But he doesn’t really care for Streisand, or Cher, or Bette Midler. And until this thread, it honestly never occurred to me that he would, or “should.”
Ok, i’m a gay guy in his twenties who HAS heard some songs by the “divas”. I’m not into them, but I dont hate them (i’d rather listen to other things though). Anyway, theyre just not my cup of tea. But, i’m not one to go wild over ANY celebrity. My friend David’s BF absolutely adores Tina Turner and rented some Stones documentary that showed her singing.
BUT I can understand the tragedy and seeing the allegory in songs or whatever. I mean, i do have my divass. I notice that I tend to listen to female singers more. Maybe it’s because I can relate to those feelings for men more, than I could relate to the feelings male singers have for women (but i do listen to male singers).
Ok, i guess I fit some stereotypes. I wouldnt say i’m down with every trend, but I do follow some (cargo pants being my fave :)). I dont club, and I havent attended a gay pride parade, but i probably will go see one next year. Also, I like dance music, and kind of like the clubber look, but i’m not that flashy so I tend to go for a more subdued style (my most favorite shirt has a nice flashy sunset behind a temple with a chinese dragon and clouds scene on a black background).
Hey! I dont swill Absolut.i havent tried it yet! But i do watch figure skating (oh, thank god for those pants), and i definately gel my hair (hey, i have to look good ;))
Why the hell do homosexuals always try to say “everyone is gay but they just won’t admit it” (or at least have tendencies towards it)? Hey, if you want to do it with someone of the same sex, then that’s your business. I really could not possibly care less who you have sex with. And I also don’t really care what made you homosexual. Whether you were born that way or made that way. Doesn’t matter to me. You are what you are and I will respect you as a human being. But just because you are like that doesn’t make me like that. I was born straight and men don’t turn me on in the least. So stop with the moronic assumption that “everyone is gay”. And you homosexauls know exactly what I’m talking about. If you’ll admit it or not is another story. But I’ve known quite a few gay people in my life to know how true this is. (i can see the comments on that statement already. whatever.)
btw- where the fuck did we ever come up with the term gay to denote homosexuality? i’ve known a lot of “gays” and they were usually not very gay, to say the least. perhaps it’s because of the pressures society puts on them for their lifestyle being not of the norm. but perhaps it’s for other reasons which i won’t specualte on at this time.
The thing is, bulldawg, is that by showing how bothered you are by the statement that everyone is gay, and by implication, that you are gay, just shows that you are insecure about your sexuality. If you were 100% confident that you were straight, you’d just laugh about it. Seems to me that you need to come out of the closet.
I’m a gay guy, and I’m pretty darn happpy with my life. come on over to my house, Bulldawg, and I’ll make a man out of you.
Excuse moi, my gay friends, but if you want to blame someone for the belief of ignorant straights that all gay men like Babs & Co., might I suggest you look to the entertainment industry. Sure, it’s a stereotype, but it’s one they exploit for laughs. Take a look at Priscilla, Queen of the Desert or In And Out, where Tom Selleck “proves” to Kevin Kline that Kevin must be gay because he can name the fourth Striesand albumn of the top of his head. That’s where well-meaning cheeseheads like your neighbor pick it up.
Woohoo! What goboy said!
With a name like BullDawg he’s obviously overcompensating for something. Judging from the fear of women evidenced in his sig, it’s not hard to imagine what. And obviously his wish to reclaim the word “gay” so he can apply it himself is very revealing. I think we should indulge him, goboy, and call him gay. What do you think? Might make him feel better about himself.
Um, both movies were written by gay men. They didn’t spring out the “entertainment industry” like some science-fiction invention; the stereotypes existed long before they began appearing in the “entertainment industry.”
Typical of what I’d expect from a flamer like goboy. Fucking faggot. But if any of you blue lip faggots care to try and I’d be glad to make my address available. I live alone with my 2 pit bulls. But they aren’t much to worry about as far as I can tell. It’s the owner I’d be scared of if I were you. Of course it’s all just talk. Gutless punks. Thanks for the laugh though! Luv ya!
You sure do know how to talk purty to a girl, BullDawg. And I’m ever so glad you told us how tolerant you are about “blue lip faggots,” otherwise someone might get a might confused. But I’m sure people being confused when it comes to you and faggots is something you’re learning, in your own way, to deal with.
And I’m so sorry, once again, that so many people have assumed you were gay; it’s obviously something that keeps you up nights, if you know what I mean I think you do. It’s a good thing you got the pit bulls and learned how to talk like a man; I’m sure that will convince everyone that they’re wrong.
And of course the surest sign of your heterosexual manliness is your offer to beat up a faggot. Everyone knows that carries no hidden meaning; it’s just a straightforward playfulness of your nature, no doubt.
Thanks for making it all crystal clear for us. 
Sorry; that was ;).
OOoooh…Bulldawg…sounds kinkay…
Wow BullDawg, you sure know how to make friends, don’t you? Why, surely your offer to beat up us “blue lip faggots” (mine are actually a nice shade of pink) makes you sound all macho and man-like. I wonder, on top of BullDawg, do you call yourself a pimp, player, or gangsta?
With an attitude and board persona (at least in this thread) like yours, it’s no wonder at all why you live alone with your dogs. You know, with two pitbulls, you sound like one hard motha’ fucka’ (cause we all know roughnecks either have pitbulls or rotts). I also love your display of manliness by your threats (compensation for something you lack…maybe security?). Wow, that makes you one bad-ass fucker!
Of course I do expect you to come back with some kind of insult against me, or a threat for me to meet you somewhere so you can whup my ass, but well, that’s typical macho BS i’d expect from a bigot like yourself.