prisoner6655321 , you seem to be confusing dress with behave. There is no male counterpart for dressing sluttily, so I guess we just have to conclude that all men who dress to show off any part of their body are going to attract slutty women. That’s right, isn’t it?
But to get back to the OP: Is it because they are trying to make some kind of statement about themselves?
Definitely. It’s all about “Look at me!” and that can be interpreted either as self-confidence, or a kind of misguided desperation. Is it because this is how the media expects women to look if they want to attract a male?
I thought the media wanted all women to want to look thin and beautifu? Or is all the hype about media hype just hype?l Is it because they actually are a self-fulfilling stereotype, and are exactly the kind of women that they appear to be after all that artifice?
No. See above. Some of them might be slutty, just as some of the women in old jeans and a sweatshirt might be slutty.
And more alarmingly, why does it work so well on some guys?
Because that’s the look they like. It doesn’t work at all on some other guys. What seems beautiful to one man seems trashy and vulgar to another, and what seems beautiful to that other guy would seem boring and bland to the first one. There’s something for everyone.
Now people, I didn’t say that the woman is the only one responsible for her actions. We’re ALL responsible. If you are driving a car and someone is about to hit you, do you try to avoid it? Of course! If you refuse to avoid the accident, not only are you stupid, but if the cop found out, you could get a ticket too. The girl is the driver of the first car that would have almost hit you. The guy is the driver of the second car. Both are responsible.
Oh, sorry a friend came over so I had to send that too quick. Understand that I think that a driver about to get into an accident is MORE responsible of the accident than a young girl who dresses slutty getting raped. In the case of rape, the young girl has maybe 5% of the responsibility. But in the case of being thought of as slutty, that’s mostly her.
You’re saying that how a woman dresses gives her some responsibility in a man’s decision to hold her down and forcibly fuck her against her protests? That it wasn’t all, 100% HIS OWN FUCKING DECISION MADE OF HIS OWN FREE WILL? That…that…there are just no words for what that is, I’m afraid.
FFS Paedophiles are attracted to kids, they are attracted to kids who look like kids. I’m sorry to say but a 13 yr old in white ankle socks and pumps is is just as likely to attract them as one in high heels.
No. There is a double standard. But there isn’t anything wrong with the double standard. You want to know why? Guys and girls are different. Guys are more visually oriented in their sexuality than girls. Women attract men. It’s up to the guys to get the girl. Guys ask girls out. Most girls don’t ask guys out.
Why some parents let their 13 year olds dress like that is not the question.
Rape is not exactly the topic at hand
Prisoner, you are a peice of work. I really really hope none of your loved ones ever has to go through the pain of being raped so you can blame them, or learn how horribly wrong you are.
Talibanesque is my new favorite work
Women dress slutty for a lot of reasons. Its fun. It gets attention. Its fun to play act a different role. It attract guys (though whether it attracts the kind of guy I’d be interested in…). It lets your date play “lookie, she’s mine.” Its the right look for certain occations (like bachelorette parties). Just like you wouldn’t wear a leather miniskirt to a country club brunch, one does not wear a Chanel suit to a dance club. Its the right look for “I’m going to tease my husband all night and then get lucky.”
Oh, and their is a male counterpart for dressing slutty…gay guys certainly know that! Even straight guys know that on the right guy, the right jeans with the right jacket spell slut.
Actually, I’d say it’s because she wants to go into modeling, acting, or singing, where there is an emphasis on having the right look (see - Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson, Hilary Duff, Lindsay Lohan).
Why do women (and girls) who aren’t putting their portfolio together dress like that? Because they like it. It makes them feel sexy and attractive, and they want to feel sexy and attractive, so that’s how they’re going to dress. Every woman has their power outfit - the right shoes, the right shirt, the right pants/skirt/whatever, the one that makes them feel like they could rule the world. For some women, that’s the power outfit. It just depends on the person.
I didn’t write the post you quoted, but that’s certainly what I’d say.
I haven’t been to all of the Spanish-speaking places in the western hemisphere, but I’ve been to two of them. When I visited the Dominican Republic, people were a little disturbed with just how modest my clothing was (I was wearing pretty normal duds by American standards.) They couldn’t quite handle my lack of makeup, either. My hosts took it as some sort of sign that I had social adjustment problems or a serious self-image issue. After all, didn’t I know everyone was looking at me? So why didn’t I treat other people–and myself–with respect by showing off how attractive I was?
Flirting–often to the point of sexual harrassment–and sexually-charged humor was constant. But the amount of actual freedom–sexual or otherwise–the women I met there had was much, much lower there than it is in the US. Don’t be decieved–in some cultures, women are expected to look sexually alluring at all times (and there may be some social censure for not looking so hot now and then), but that doesn’t mean they’re any more OK with putting out than the more sedately women in Anglo-speaking countries. If anything, my hosts were scandalized by what I told them about my life. I went places in public alone, with no man to accompany me; I had my own apartment; if I was in a relationship, I could still have other men as friends or acquaintances without upsetting my SO.
When you go to other countries, rules about sexuality can be very, very different.
I didn’t write the post you quoted, but that’s certainly what I’d say.
I haven’t been to all of the Spanish-speaking places in the western hemisphere, but I’ve been to two of them. When I visited the Dominican Republic, people were a little disturbed with just how modest my clothing was (I was wearing pretty normal duds by American standards.) They couldn’t quite handle my lack of makeup, either. My hosts took it as some sort of sign that I had social adjustment problems or a serious self-image issue. After all, didn’t I know everyone was looking at me? So why didn’t I treat other people–and myself–with respect by showing off how attractive I was?
Flirting–often to the point of sexual harrassment–and sexually-charged humor was constant. But the amount of actual freedom–sexual or otherwise–the women I met there had was much, much lower there than it is in the US. Don’t be decieved–in some cultures, women are expected to look sexually alluring at all times (and there may be some social censure for not looking so hot now and then), but that doesn’t mean they’re any more OK with putting out than the more sedately women in Anglo-speaking countries. If anything, my hosts were scandalized by what I told them about my life. I went places in public alone, with no man to accompany me; I had my own apartment; if I was in a relationship, I could still have other men as friends or acquaintances without upsetting my SO.
When you go to other countries, rules about sexuality can be very, very different.
Did I miss it or did no one yet mention low self-esteem?
Some women/girls overcompensate by playing the sexual card.
Sexual abuse at a young age may be a factor as well. A high percentage of strippers were molested as children.
I’ve gone to a dance at a hotel I’ve been staying at dressed to the nines in high heels, patterned stockings, and a short skirt, although I’ve had to give up wearing make up. I’ve danced and flirted outrageously with men I know and not regretted it within the past 6 months. A little over a year ago, I slow danced with a man who I was very aware was attracted to me because I could feel his erection pressing against me, although I don’t remember what I was wearing that particular evening. The difference between that men and others on these evenings and the men prisoner6655321 apparently associates with is that these men were capable of saying “No” and taking “No” for an answer.
The reason I dress up like that is simple. It took me years to realize I wasn’t ugly or repulsive and I’ve come to like knowing I look attractive. Watching a male friend the first time he saw me dressed up like that realize that I am a woman and a reasonably attractive one was fun! Letting the rather shy, gawky fellow I’ve been seeing see that the sexy woman on the dance floor prefers his company over that of all the other men there makes me smile.
There is a lot of pressure on women to be physically attractive. I can remember a column in Mademoiselle magazine years ago in which the solution to every beauty problem posed was basically “dye your hair blonde.” We’re treated badly if we’re unattractive, yet called “slutty looking” if we misread the cues about what attractive is. Today, I’m wearing gray slacks and a long-sleeved black shirt. It’s intended to be an indication that I’m not myself, but I am aware, when I see myself in the mirror, that I also look good! I’ve read time and time again how much the men around here appreciate it when a woman throws them a compliment; is it so unreasonable to think that we women might like it just as much and might try to act or dress in a way which promotes one?
Like I said, different things work on different people, and people do get things wrong sometimes. Other times, they get exactly the look they were going for. Either way, I assume the reason why a woman dresses “all slutty” is ultimately because she wants to.
As a teenager, my very Mexican mother would point out I needed a little color on my lips, why doesn’t such a pretty girl wear a dress sometimes? “Aiee, those jeans, you have beautiful legs, mija.” And “Your father thinks you’re sick, you wearing your brother’s sweater and no makeup, did you go to classes wearing that thing?” In my friends’ homes it was more ’ no need to impress anyone, we’re family, be comfortable’. Bright colors and fancy hair and makeup were not necessarily seen as bait for a mantrap, but as a way to look pretty so others may enjoy looking at you and my Dad to be proud of his girls.
Some people might think a woman in a black leather dress is slutty, some might think the dress attractive, some might think slutty doesn’t even begin until the dress is plastic.
Was Marilyn Monroe dressed all slutty?