It’s not identical. The Wii version has some really well implemented motion controls that really serve as the punctuation mark at the end of each move. There is little more satisfying than making a huge dunking motion after taking to the air, while on fire, in a close game. It feels and works great. Plus, in my experience, it makes it much easier to bring new players into the fold.
And while it does lack online, I’m one who has a lot of friends who play locally, which is the better way to play, making online an unimportant factor for me. Plus, I’ve heard it’s a bit of a bust as apparently very few people are actually playing it online, making it difficult to find a game.
I know you’re joking but this is pretty much what I really want and I’m guessing what we’ll get whenever Nintendo does release their next system. An HD system with motion controls and a hard drive that plays first party Nintendo games. I’d love it. Losing the goddamn friend codes would be nice too.
Of course we’ll probably get that when Nintendo’s next system comes out. It will be perfectly reasonable in 2012 or 2013 or whatever. A lot of people seem to be forgetting that Wii was released in 2006.
Because HDTV market penetration was ridiculously low. As was online console gaming. Nintendo made every move they made with the Wii to reach the mass-market, HD and online play were sidelines. They didn’t want to push the envelope, they wanted to perfect the envelope they made last time.
And they did. From a business point of view and a games point of view. So what exactly is wrong with the Wii?
Yeah, that’s the stance I think is dumb. I don’t know what Miyamoto’s problem is. Wii games look awesome and way better when rendered in HD, the technology exists to do it easily, Nintendo has shown they’re not afraid to push more advanced hardware on the userbase, and everyone else is doing a hardware refresh.
I don’t what this “we” thing is, since you haven’t said anything reasonable. The only one with a rational argument is dzeiger, when he or she said that there isn’t enough demand for such a revision. I disagree with that, of course, since people bring it up all the time, especially in Dolphin screenshot threads. I’m trying to be civil, but it’s frustrating. I explain myself and then three people tell me I’m wrong because they misunderstand the technology or what’s being asked. Just going backwards from this post, someone is quoting Miyamoto saying nothing to justify the refusal to do a Wii HD. Someone tells me it’s all in my head, but that can’t be true or the Wii HD would exist. Someone says that the Wii was released in 2006, which has nothing to do with anything being asked of Nintendo today. I don’t want to go through it all again. It’s all stupid and it’s all been addressed.
Actually, you know what? I do agree with Miyamoto. I am a consumer that has an HDTV and I do want to play my games with nice graphics. I don’t know why Nintendo won’t sell me a box that I can stick my existing discs into and it’ll spit out something like this.
Nintendo has always been conservative with their console hardware too. I don’t know everything that was released in Japan, but we didn’t get an NES upgrade, the SNES got upgrades in the form of the chip on the game cartridge, then they got burned with the 64DD.
Nintendo has also focused on the Japanese market. What’s the HD market penetration there? If Japan isn’t HD-crazy, Nintendo won’t release an upgrade. They’ve done interesting things with some of the hardware in Japan, like the Panasonic Q, but most of that never gets over here.
Of course, replying to Justin_Bailey, I’m preaching to the choir Do you hang around Assembler?
A console generation means pushing the envelope forward to allow games that weren’t possible in the previous generation. A Wii HD just brings Nintendo up to where the industry has been since 11/2005.
Also, the console life cycle involves many hardware revisions, generally in an attempt to lower costs. You can see this readily with the changes to Xbox 360’s power consumption. I just want Nintendo do one to add HD, instead of just save costs.
Wrong. Sony lost their shirt pushing the envelope the way they did. The PS2 was the unquestioned champion of the previous generation and the only thing that’s keeping the PS3 from total annihilation is that the Japanese hate the 360.
And I (RROD) don’t think (RROD) I even (RROD) need to (RROD) talk about Microsoft’s (RROD) problems when they pushed (RROD) the envolope with the (RROD) 360.
Games on the Wii AREN’T possible to do on the PS2/Xbox/GC. So Nintendo pushed the generation forward just fine.
A console generation, by definition, can’t include a hardware refresh that radically changes the system specs like that. The Xbox 360’s new form factor makes power consumption better, yet, but it’s also the exact same system that plays all the exact same games as the Xbox 360 that was released in 2005.
I admitted my mistake, but it doesn’t change my argument that while Microsoft was busy losing 4 billion dollars on the Xbox, Nintendo was pulling in cash hand over fist with the Cube.