Why doesn't Trump's childishness simply disqualify him outright in your mind?

How about the old days,before email existed?
I’m not talking about the Luddites or the pony express…I’m asking a serious question, about the modern world, not so long ago.

Let’s take as a example the Gulf War against Saddam Hussein. That was a massive logistical undertaking, and was preceded by massive efforts to gather intelligence about WMD’s, the Republican Guard and the Iraqi army, and analyse the political situation. It must have generated massive numbers of top secret documents. Today those documents would be emails.
But in 1990? How did they do it? I assume some of it was done by courier.

Yes, couriering documents for communication as the status quo is stupid, I agree.

Maybe next time you can say this, instead of “as stupid as couriering secret documents”

Really? Now you are saying you were talking about intergovt communication? Guess what? Couriering IS used for intergovt communications, just not time sensitive communications.

So what? I’m responding to something YOU said, namely that couriering secret documents was stupid. You didn’t qualify your statement with “intergovernmental communications” or even “timely” communications. And as far as I can tell, neither did Trump, so you can’t use HIS words as an implicit explanation for YOUR words.

Real simple here - Simply say something like “Yeah, I know it looked like I meant ALL types of couriering of secret documents were stupid but I didn’t mean that. I meant couriering ALL government communications as a day-to-day process was stupid and some types of couriering of secret documents are necessary.”

Certified mail?

The used AUTODIN to transfer messages to Base (Post) Communications Centers, which printed, sorted, and made available for pickup by the addressees of the messages.

Secure, encrypted system from end-to-end.

trumpsplaining is just a troll on thoughtful citizens for the near future. Very depressing and destructive for the politics.

Meanwhile donald will not or cannot clarify anything he says. Which makes trumpsplaining inevitable.

And this never becomes part of the situational discussion.

donald is not defendable, so the splaining becomes the point, and the fortress to defend. It’s embarrassing, if you take one tiny step back and look.

But shame is in short supply.

Childishness on Trump’s part is really nothing.

Just today, Trump has blatantly lied about an Intel briefing he will be having with US intelligence agencies.

Trump lies about US Intelligence agencies, and backs up Russia - a country that historically has not exactly been a friend and ally.

Trump’s Tweet: “The “Intelligence” briefing on so-called “Russian hacking” was delayed until Friday, perhaps more time needed to build a case. Very strange!”

However, there was no delay. The briefing was never scheduled for now. He is lying about this. He is making an enemy of US Intelligence agencies and is cozying up to foreign powers.

Yet Trump’s supporters have no problem with this whatsoever. None.

As I said in another thread, if Trump installed Putin has his chief advisor, and put him in the White House, Trump supporters would excuse and even cheer this. It is beyond belief.

I can understand why Trump holds the intelligence community in such contempt. After all, he knows things other people don’t know. More than the generals, even. Because he’s smart and he has a brain.

Yes, I did take it that trump felt that couriers should be used as a primary means of intergovt communication. As that was what I was responding to, I did not feel I needed to put so many caveats, and figured the context would speak for itself.

I’ll give you this much. With no context, i can see how my comment was referring to all courier services. The context in which I made the remark, that being in response to Trump’s implication that we should use courier services for “important” communication shows that I was speaking specifically about the situation upon which he was remarking.

In any case, as I am right here, you have the ability to ask me to clarify, rather than going on and on about how your misinterpretation makes me look dumb, even after I have clarified.

That takes longer than a courier. I post payroll on Thursday, and pay on Friday. For certified mail, I’d have to post a day or so sooner, costing me not an insignificant amount in interest. Besides, that’s how my payroll company delivers checks, it was not really my decision.

I didn’t take his words as meaning this, just that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about :slight_smile:

Same as above. I didn’t take his words as meaning “We should use couriers for all important intergovernmental communications” I took them, as I said, as him not knowing what he is talking about.

I thought I did ask for clarification, but it didn’t seem to be getting any clearer to me.

OK, but you asked for another way. Also, I’ve looked it up in the interim, and I meant Registered Mail, but whatever.

Wait. But he said he knows all about hacking… and cyber…

Alright, fine. Couriers are smart. Couriers are awesome. Couriers have many uses.

Trump is a moron.

Can we agree now?

Well, he asks his 10 year old son about the cyber, because the lad knows a lot about these new computer things.

He hates the intelligence community just because of their name.

Wednesday is almost over. Did The Donald ever hold his press conference <or whatever> to tell us all the special shit about the cyber that even the intelligence agencies don’t know?

Have you read Article II of the Constitution? The President is Commander in Chief, appoints certain government officials, judges, and ambassadors, signs treaties, and enforces the laws already enacted by Congress.

There’s no generic “Do Stuff.” :dubious:

He is going to have a lot of trouble whichever.

I remember using a Model 40 teletype on the Allied Defense Data Network. We were using those as late as the early 1990s.

I still remember my unit’s UNCLAS callsign - RCESZEA.

Sweet, someone else knows the RI codes :slight_smile:

One of mine was RHDJAAA.

All the teletype systems were gone by the time I graduated tech school, but I trained on some sort of Sperry system.

Sort of back on topic, Ramstein AB was my first assignment, just after Gulf War I, and the airmen there said the printers were non-stop spitting out messages during the entirety of Desert Shield and Storm, all of which needed to be collated, stapled, cover-sheeted, and routed to the correct organizations on base.

‘Smart’ and ‘Awesome’ are unnecessary for my agreement, but yes!

Oooh, 700 new jobs. Wow.

Meanwhile…

To Donnie, all that you described there is stuff, and it sure as h-e double hockey sticks does not, in any way, preclude the valid concerns about his, yes, putative common sense and moral values.