We need someone who can win back the swing voters that went with Trump in 2016. Bernie is pretty radical for even middle of the road voters. Also, Bernie will be 78 next year, which makes his age and VP running mate an issue also. A guy like Biden is a white male with a moderate image. He may very well win the more moderate Republican voters who have been shocked into reality by the horrific words and behavior of Trump.
And Biden will be 77.
Not what I was going for, but I’ll allow it.
Let’s see if Thing Fish figures it out.
It’s not 10 times as large, it’s a little over double. He isn’t mayor of the metropolitan area, he’s myor of the city.
The issue of VP will be interesting. Both men will probably be obliged to put forward a woman, preferably a woman of colour if possible. But politically Biden will just have another standard democrat by his side (at most a tad to the Left of him). They can work off the same page, in the event the VP has to step up to become POTUS business can carry on as usual. Whereas Bernie might be pressured to have a moderate democrat to placate voters (and the party leadership) of veering to far over but would he ignore it and put forward a similarly minded person? He could give a moderate the nod and just ignore him/her once elected but he’ll be in his eighties shortly so in the event something happens to him having a moderate assume the presidency is not business as usual you’d expect as far his agenda is concerned. It may be the VP turned POTUS shifts to the middle.
Ok, my mistake. Then amend my statement to strike “arguably” and insert “conceivably.”
His numbers are only a little worse than Biden’s and clearly better than any of the candidates.
So how do you explain the polls showing that Bernie is particularly strong in the Midwestern swing states?
How strong…and are they the only ones voting this election?
For most of Bernie’s Congressional career, he was the lone socialist voice in Congress. He performed the valuable function of defining the leftward boundary of mainstream American political discourse. He put forth arguments, most prominently on single-payer health care, which are only now starting to enter the mainstream, due in no small part to his tireless advocacy of them.
It’s simply not reasonable to evaluate his Congressional career based on how many laws he got passed or how well liked he was by his colleagues. That’s not what he was there for. Now that the populace is finally starting to catch up to him, he is a major sponsor of legislation such as Medicare for All and the Green New Deal.
You know, people on this board notice when you just make stuff up. In fact, exactly half of the ten Senators who have made an endorsement have endorsed Biden (including two from Delaware). Booker, Klobuchar, Warren, Sanders, and Bullock have one each, all from their home State Senators. The other 38 Democratic Senators have yet to make an endorsement.
Is he? Out of WI/MN/MI/IA he is only leading in one poll from March in WI (per 538, maybe you have other polls)
And trump 74, but the GOp isnt declaring him “un-electable” due to his age.
we gotta stop with the ageism and attacks.
So are you gonna back this up, or back down?
There’s really no point to chasing this down. They all have interesting professional experience, he’s just going to say that it’s more in line with the job of president than being in Congress for 30 years.
I’m talking about the hypothetical polls about him vs. Trump. Biden is consistently the biggest winner against Trump overall, but Sanders is a clear second, and the drop off to third is steep; there are MANY polls in which only those two beat Trump, while all of the others lose to him.
And Sanders has generally come closer to matching Biden’s performance in swing States than in the country as a whole.
The GOP wouldn’t turn on trump if he sprouted horns and a tail. In considering someone for president, it’s not ageist to consider his age.
The thing is, Sanders is never ever ever going to win the primary. Way too many Dems hate his guts. They blame him for 2016, they think he’s a carpetbagger, they think he’s an unreasonable ideologue. So it doesn’t matter how he polls against Trump, that’s never going to happen.
See below.
That’s exactly what I said in the first place. I’m not saying that Bernie has no experience: he’s well versed in being a mediocre legislator. Others have experience more in line with what Americans have typically preferred for our Presidents.
Hahaha!
Biden has been endorsed by Doug Jones, Dianne Feinstein, Bob Casey, Bob Graham, Bill Nelson, and Tom Daschle. I’m pretty sure all of them served in the Senate with Sanders for at least a brief time. I mean, if Sanders is such a damn awesome legislator, where are his current and former colleagues getting on the Bernie train and extolling his amazing political skills?
Answer: Sanders’ record is vastly inflated by his supporters, and the silence of his colleagues says something.
I guess then no, you’re not gonna back it up. :rolleyes: