Based on your quotes, it isn’t even close to trolling, and she didn’t tell anyone to have an abortion.
She is saying that not getting pregnant, adoption, and abortion are all options for people who would otherwise need the taxpayers to provide for their children, and that therefore someone who takes advantage of none of those options is selfishly taking taxpayer money for their personal advantage.
She may be mean and wrong (and I’m guessing she is) but that doesn’t make her a troll.
I’m against trolls or trolling.
You’re right. She’s not a troll for being mean or wrong, just like she wouldn’t be for disagreeing with someone or for being a dick.
That being said, I’m of the firm belief she’s a troll. And if you ever engage with her in discussion, you probably will too.*
*Or, at the very least, know it’s not worth any time or effort for anyone to ever engage with her again
If we banned everybody who happens to be an asshole, this place would be down to Polycarp and
i wonder - if the pit were taken away, would everyone just cry quietly to themselves at night because someone on the internet was mean to them?
If you think she’s a troll, why are you starting another thread about her, drawing attention to her and her posts?
She did strongly imply that I should have aborted my children. Or maybe not both, but definitely my youngest. Barring that, I should have given him up to an already clogged foster/adoption system.
Those things were very upsetting, but this is the Pit, and that was Curlcoat. I expected to be upset along those lines. No, what upset me was this…(I’m opening the thread for the first time since I first saw this post…so forgive me if I get fuzzy on anything that happened after that.)
That did it. We sacrifice quite a bit and my husband makes a good living. His job does not offer insurance, what are we supposed to do? We simply cannot buy it on our own. This detail does not mean that I am raising my children wrong or that they won’t be good men. They see their father work very hard, and we’ll talk to them quite a bit about the mistakes mommy and daddy made.
So, ultimately, she, without knowing too terribly much about me or my family, ‘knows’ my children’s future. She estimated what they are capable of based simply on the fact that we get healthcare on a taxpayer program. Maybe she does this to children of people she knows who are on some sort of assistance. Maybe she keeps her mouth shut IRL. No matter, she
represents a contingent of people who treat children of the poor as less than trash. Not to be invested in because we know their future. They will inevitably turn out to be trashy like their parents. No wonder poverty tends to be cyclical. I hate that it’s done to other people’s children. It was absolutely heartbreaking to see it done to mine. My kids are young, but I see such a spark in them. Maybe every parent does, because that’s our job. We’re all supposed to believe the best of our kids. How else do we encourage them to grow? To treat ‘mommy’ as a slur, and to call my job ‘arrogant’ is just a value system that is so far removed from anything I consider proper that I’m forced to write Curlcoat off completely.
She’s probably going to have something to say about this post. I won’t be answering her. I won’t be exploding in anger at her or insulting her. I won’t give her the satisfaction. I can only hope that in the future she’ll think about the impact her words have on others. We are people, not just words on a screen.
I agree it’s not trolling, but yeah, she strongly suggested torie should have either had an abortion or given her children up for adoption. She admits as much in the third quote I posted.
Sure, but she is not making a general statement to “people” or “someone.” She is making this personal with torie particularly, telling her what she should have done with her own children and deeming her selfish for not doing so. That crosses a line. I’m not saying it’s something the Mods can or should handle. But it’s a shitty thing to say, and more personal than most of the casual insults that get traded around here.
Yeah, and if you read the thread, you’ll see that’s exactly my point.
Hey, torie. Curlcoat is just a child-hating nutter who has nothing better to do with her time than to spew hate on Internet message boards. If she had a worthwhile or fulfilling life, she wouldn’t be spending all of her copious free time furiously pounding out ignorant and hate-filled posts on the SDMB. Don’t spend another minute thinking about what she said about you or your kids. Far worse that they should grow up to be like her, trolling the Internet for kicks.
I’m on the side of the people who think she’s a troll, by the way. I didn’t for a long time, but after having (foolishly) engaged with her in a few of those recent monster threads, I am firmly on the side of troll.
I do think curlcoat gets off on saying awful things about kids, knowing that everyone will lose their minds when she does it, and that she thinks that she’s superior and awesome because she never had any. She loves calling other people out for not planning sufficiently for illness or children; however, she also laments at great length about how paying for UHC/welfare/illegal immigrants/public schools is going to literally bankrupt her six figure salary earning husband, and cause them to lose their house and retirement, because they live in Orange County-- but THAT is not a sign that THEY are irresponsible. Nope. Hilarious.
Well, being against UHC/welfare/illegal immigrants/public schools isn’t trolling. It may be an unpopular opinion here, but it’s not trolling. And this isn’t the first time that one poster has called out another for making bad decisions.
I don’t think she’s a troll because she’s against welfare, illegal immigrants, public schools, etc. I think she’s a troll because she constantly changes her story in response to criticism and she deliberately attacks people in shocking and offensive ways just to get a big reaction.
So the OP just links to a bunch of threads that curlcoat has posted in, not specific posts? Are we supposed to be mining for our own examples?
These are pretty serious accusations and the best you can do to illustrate them is to link to some posts and wish us happy reading? What a fucking tool.
I’m with you on this. The only part of her persona that could be construed as “trolling” is that she knows how to hit those hot button issues for people, and she hits them over and over, at great length, is immune to facts, and never gives up. But I think that’s just her personality, for real, and not a trollish persona assumed for the sole purpose of riling people up and getting a reaction. She’s a true believer.
And I don’t think she’s a troll for that. Again, if you ever actually debated against her or tried to reason with her in any thread, I’m sure you might actually start to think otherwise. She’s not a troll for her beliefs or disagreements or opinions or even because she can say mean things sometimes. If you think I (and at least two others I know of, one in this thread) think she’s a troll for those reasons, you’re mistaken.
One thing is for certain, in all the threads she’s been in (mostly the ones I linked) there has never, ever been someone on her side, save for Carol Stream…which speaks volumes and is quite apt/fitting, I think. I honestly believe that anyone who has debated with her, long-term, across many threads, would agree–if she’s not a troll, she IS seriously someone who would best be suited to be on everyone’s ignore list. It would save many threads from turning into the Curlcoat show.
Just wondering why it’s allowed and how much longer it will be allowed for.
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After looking through the linked threads I think “Hanlon’s Razor” applies.
Then again, when it’s obvious that someone is just saying what they know with get a rise out of people whether they believe it or not, I find it more humorous than anything.
Sigh. People are so quick to yell “troll” these days. Can’t she just be a garden variety bitch?
Sorry, SWB, but if I’m to link to specific posts I’d have to link to each and every one of her posts since they all apply. 
But thank you, I take great pride in my fucking toolishness. I’m glad you could notice it.
I’m personally for punishing people who act like trolls, even if they technically aren’t. I do think we need to give them the chance to reform. And I think we should allow people to have a bad day or two. But if enough people report a particular person for trolling, it shouldn’t matter that they might just bea crass, rude, unintelligent, heartless person.
We can’t constantly be trying to figure out the intent of a poster. The actions themselves should have consequences.
As for curlcoat: well, the next time I see a post by her, I’ll decide whether she’s a big enough jerk to warrant ignoring her. And if everybody would use the ignore feature, it would be just as effective as a ban.