Me and my wife argue about this alot. Why should I have to put the toilet seat down after I finish. Is she just jealous cause I can do my “business” standing up? Who made up this stupid rule anyway. Where are all the women’s libbers when you need them.
If this needs to move to the “pit”, that is find with me.
I dunno.
I s’pose it’s because a girl might not be paying attention if she backs up to sit on the un-seated toilet and falls in.
I think this happened to me once or twice, usually if I woke up in a groggy stupor in the middle of the night.
Men, on the other hand, are facing the toilet when they begin their dirty sinful business so they are more alert and the toilet seat offers no potential danger.
And again on the other hand we could just say who cares and just go ahead and do our “dirty sinful business” without lifting the lid. Also do women really back into the toilet when they enter the john?
I love it. I just had this argument at a local tavern the other day. I mentioned that I always look to make sure the seat is down before I actually sit. They didn’t know what to say to that one. I also mentioned that should be looking to make sure the lid is up anyway, again, silence.
Then I proceeded to use the Women’s room instead of the Men’s room (small place, only one person in the room at a time) and intentionally left the lid up. Sure enough, next girl who that went in came out was screaming “Who left the lid up?”
Excellent question, Bill! I, too, find the whole thing annoying. Are women too delicate to handle the weight of a toilet seat? If I need to sit down, I check first; why can’t women do the same?
There’s the lid, and there’s the seat. While the toilet is not the most attractive appliance in the house, it is far MORE attractive when you don’t have to look in the bowl upon entering the bathroom, whether the seat itself is up or down. When I finish my business, I put the lid down, and I expect the rest of my house to do the same. It’s not a male/female thing. It’s an aesthetic thing.
Oh, please. It’s just simple consideration for the person you live with. No skin off your nose if the seat’s lowered when you get there; you just raise it and do your business. But if the seat’s left raised, your wife stands a good chance of not noticing and half falling in, which hurts. I’m sure you wouldn’t want this to happen to your lovely wife, so your apparent irritation at having to perform such an incredibly onerous task must have been simply because you didn’t understand this. Now go forth and do better.
Listen, when you gots to go, you gots to go. It’s bad enough we have to worry about belts, buckles, zippers, snaps, button, etc. (Oh, let’s not even talk about slips, pantyhose, girdles, etc.) AND we’re supposed to keep all of this off of the floor AND somehow turn around to make sure the seat is down all before the bladder explodes.
Don’t even get me started on trying to turn around in small bathrooms while pregnant.
Does it kill you to take the time to put it back where it belongs before leaving? You’re facing it anyway.
Of course there is the groggy, trip to the bathroom in the middle of the night problem, but that was already addressed.
Really, can’t we talk about more important things like why oranges are round or why the moon speaks to me when I don’t have my glasses on?
I was offering a half-assed answer to the question hoping that it would make everybody shut up.
The truth is, I don’t know because I’m female and I’ve never cared if the seat was up or not.
I think that women having a hissy fit over this is exaggerated from jokes on the telly and the like, nobody would REALLY care about such a foolish thing-
Except my mom who likes things clean and orderly to the point of obessive-compulsion.
Turp, I’ve been railed by some gf’s and the like for leaving it up, they take it seriously and I find it extremely annoying. Makes them look stupid.
Basically the womans arguement is that “Its so easy to put the seat down, why don’t you just do it”, but if I respond with “If its so easy, why can’t you just do it.” I’m the asshole. So somehow because women are too dumb or distracted by the voices in their heads to glance down before sitting, it becomes the mens job to both put the seat down and up everytime they use it. This is especially annoying to us because it doesn’t matter to us which way it is, since we use both. Basically we get yelled at for your problem.
Finally I don’t want to hear this dumb, “you’re facing it” arguement. Women don’t back into the bathroom, you walk in facing the toilet like everyone else and then turn around before sitting. If you pay attention you can see the situation as you enter the room.
Guess what, us guys sit occasionally too, and frankly I’ve never fallen in, and I doubt many guys have either.
Well, I don’t know about the rest of you, but I put the seat and the lid down to keep my cat from drinking out of the toilet. Of course, if I’m not at home then all bets are off.
Because the man put the lid up in the first place. Why not leave it open all the time? Because it looks icky, and the lid is there for a purpose. It looks better, and it keeps the toilet cleaner longer because it keeps dust out.
Bravo Hamadryad. The (in my experience) prevailing female attitude in this area has always irritated me.
I had a female friend who actually had a small crosstitch sign hanging above the toilet saying ‘Please lower the lid’ while all she did was make sure the SEAT was down.
You have to bend down to flush the toilet anyway, just continue the movement and lower both the seat AND lid. That way both male and female have something to raise before they start and something to lower when they’re done.
I worked in an office a couple of years ago, with 5 or 6 men and 1 woman sharing one washroom. The woman would constantly chide us for not putting the seat down, until one of the guys asked her: “Hey, why is it you never put the seat up when you’re done with it?”
It was funny, it had never occured to any of us (male or female) that maybe SHE should leave the seat up instead of us leaving the seat down.
Okay, I generally try to leave the seat down for my wife. Why do I do this? Because I am a beautiful human being. It doesn’t take that much effort and it makes my wife happy, so I do it.
But this argument that “women might fall in” is pure horse-hockey. Listen, if I get up in the middle of the night and have to take a poop, I do this goofy thing when I get to the john. I check to see if the seat’s down before I squat. Is this really such a strange concept. I do other weird things like that too. For instance - I make sure a door is open before I try to walk through it - I make sure there is water in the pool before I dive in - and most of the time I make sure there are no cars coming when I cross the street.
But, hey, I guess that’s just me.
I will now dispense enumerated wisdom:
Guys should put the toilet seat down. It’s a nice thing to do which requires very little effort.
If a woman falls into the toilet because the lid was up, it’s not the guy’s fault. If you don’t want to fall into the toilet, you should look before you sit. (Exceptions: situations where women have a right to assume guys aren’t using their toilets, like women’s restrooms and all-female apartments.)
If you feel strong emotions over this issue, you need to chill the fuck out. This is not a symbol of your man’s lack of respect for your feelings. It is not an allegory for your woman’s attempt to control you. It’s just a toilet seat. (I’ve had girlfriends who were passionate to the point of incoherence about the issue, which just made me want to leave it up.)
The Giraffe has spoken.
Let me explain, Jack. Guys sit sometimes and stand sometimes, and I think we can assume that you stand a lot more than you sit. It’s therefore not automatic for you to sit; it is for women. So we forget to check sometimes. So sue us. Play nice and put the seat down and we’ll reward you with lots of good sex.
Okay, but don’t tell my wife, okay?
Am I the only guy who sits while peeing OR pooping? It’s a heck of a lot more relaxing, and being enclosed in a stall is much more private that being elbow to elbow at the urinal. Also, how the heck can you read a magazine at the urinal? Sure, if I’m in a hurry I’ll use the urinal, but I prefer to use the stall.
The point being - It is automatic for me to sit on the seat and yet the only time I’ve ever fallen in is when I was ill and very disoriented.
Why not leave it up all the time???
So no one notices when y’all “miss” :eek: