How many of those 730 killings were justified?
so it’s OK for black people to kill innocent cops?
Oh, my mistake. It’s OK for black people to kill innocent cops.
“I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color,” Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game.
Again, should white NFL players take a knee in protest of police officers killed disproportionately by black people? Same freedom of speech arguments. Same moral/racial outrage.
Your argument that protesting the disproportionate killing of police officers by black people is an endorsement of a disproportionate killing of black people by police officers. If that is true than the reverse is true.
None of this has anything to do with NFL football. I posted the same illogical argument with the racial component reversed to demonstrate that.
If they feel that strongly about it, why not?
From your cite
It goes on to say that “per incident” blacks are not more likely to be shot than any other race, but
so it may very well be that once you encounter a policeman, your chances of being shot are not greater if you are black, but your chances of encountering a police officer is higher because you’re black.
so they don’t shoot because you’re black, they shoot because you’re there; and you’re there because you’re black… . that changes everything! :rolleyes:
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Because it has nothing to do with football.
This is a good question. Why, if people are so concerned about police being killed, don’t they protest too?
neither does the anthem
You know, I’m OK with playing the national anthem, just because most other countries do to and it;s not just an America thing, it is a reflection of Global Nationalism (which I also object to but that’s another topic)… But what I do object to is also playing God Bless America (even in Toronto), and making everybody act like that is also the national anthem, and even worse, creating a bond between Patriotism and The Military, and even worse yet, enforcing the fiction that both God and The Military are inextricable components to the concept of What America Is.
A story on the local news this morning.
What’s offensive to me is the Facebook meme showing a widow being handed a flag at a military funeral and the caption says “Those who disrespect the flag have never been handed a folded one”. Way to go, exploit someone’s grief for your own political purposes.
Veterans are as divided on this as the rest of us, so quoting a veteran who agrees with you doesn’t do shit. Moreover, veterans aren’t some kind of Super Citizens whose opinions trump everyone else’s.
Want to stand? Fine. Want to kneel? Great. Want to burn the NFL tickets you already paid for? Knock yourself out. But if you get your panties in a twist because someone isn’t behaving the way YOU want them to, maybe you don’t love freedom as much as you say you do.
But it was okay when that Christian guy took a knee, right?
Firstly, flag code very specifically names several things as disrespectful. Among them, flags on clothes, uniforms, nascars, being passed overhead in crowds, etc, etc. All things routinely done in America without anyone raising an eyebrow or saying boo. So, like if you’re all about ‘respect for the flag’, why were you silent about all the actual disrespecting going on?
You know what’s not specified as disrespecting in flag code? Taking a knee.
Besides which, how silly do you have to be to think these protests were about the flag? They clearly weren’t, and y’all look ridiculous trying to make it about that. When EVERYBODY knows it’s not.
Also Rosa Parks was not protesting bus schedules, just to be clear.
Most don’t. You seem to be confusing “America isn’t the only country that does it” with “it’s the common thing to do”.
I don’t even understand the concept of how a flag can be disrespected. Idolatry isn’t my bag.
Apparently some dude has a statue at a stadium and kneeled during a protest and now he claims he was praying. And a bunch of people have now signed a petition to have said statue taken down.
Too funny.
It’s a tradition in this country. Protesting it is disrespectful and offensive.
So for you, freedom means being free to behave as YOU want them to. Got it.
Well, if the kneeler is one of the players for whom kneeling has this special meaning, then yeah, it probably does.
I’m a vet, and my husband is a war vet, and I’m kinda tired of the “vets are supercitizens” too, especially since it makes us targets for everyone who wants us to agree with them so they can say “vets agree with me!”
Also, I hate football.
These actions are never done on company property, though. They are always held in the public right-of-way. The owner/management can have protestors removed from company property, but not from the right-of-way. Your example would be more accurate if you said the employees were protesting at their work stations.
Note: if the employer says it’s OK to do so, as many NFL team owners have, then it’s perfectly fine to protest on the “work floor”.
There is no freedom of speech in an employee/employer relationship, period. In fact, there is no right to free speech outside of a government/citizen relationship.
Quoted as possibly the only time I’ve ever agreed with BobLibDem! 
In the interest of full disclosure, I really don’t care what others do when the flag is presented or the national anthem is played. I’ll conduct myself as I see fit, they are free to do the same. By the same token, if there are foreseeable consequences to those actions then the one undertaking them should be prepared to accept them as well.
This is how we start. First one thing, than another, before you know it you’ll agree with me on everything! 
I’m not a big fan of this country; especially now - at this moment in time. But I’ll stand and I would hope others do the same in honor of all the people who have died trying to make it better. From soldiers in battle to the Freedom Marchers to everyone else. I won’t be horribly offended if you don’t but I will notice and form opinions. What can I say? I’m kind of human like that.