No it doesn’t. I’m a veteran and I’m fine with it, and so are many veterans I served with. It’s entirely peaceful and non-disruptive. It’s almost impossible to imagine a less disruptive or more peaceful form of protest.
It’s offensive to pay some POS athlete several million dollars and then see them dishonor the country that made them rich.
I don’t think these athletes realized just how fed up people are with their privileged tantrums. The guns & domestic violence, drug abuse, and disrespect to their fans & their country.
There are a lot of good people playing in the NFL. But, the bad eggs are ruining the reputation of everyone. The National Felons League needs a major overhaul.
Can you imagine a regular employee pulling this crap at their job? Hey everyone! Leave your desks, throw down that tablet, and take a knee in the hallway. Our boss will be fine with it.
When you’re on the clock, you work. Period.
Protest on your own free time. Union workers picket outside the building. Not in the work area when they are being paid.
These privileged players are employees. They’ve reported to work, suited up and are in their designated work area. That’s not the place to protest.
Tantrum? I admit i havent seen the footage, but as i understand it all he did was kneel.
He’s paid to play football. He didn’t not play football. And unless it was in his contract that he had to stand, he has every right to kneel. Peaceful protest IS honoring the country when you have a grievance with said country.
My boss wouldn’t force me to be “patriotic” before every shift. Note I said “before”. I might agree with your analogy if he stopped the game to protest.
Just for the record I don’t. What I said was:
“From soldiers in battle to the Freedom Marchers to everyone else”.
What I link the flag to, and the anthem as well, is those who put service tom all of us above their own interest. It stands above politics in my heart and more for the ideal I think/feel we should be working towards.
Some of those people died to perpetuate a wrong.
And there are still wrongs worth protesting.
In some countries, it goes beyond sporting events.
Ray Bradbury wrote a short story called “The Anthem Sprinters”. It takes place in Ireland and revolves around a 'sporting" event where movie goers compete to see who can get out of the theater between the end of the movie and the playing of the national anthem.
Once the anthem starts, everyone in the theater is required to stay until the end.
Kneeling during the anthem respects that those soldiers fought to defend the freedoms of the people of the country. Telling someone that they cannot express themselves is the opposite of what they fought for.
Now, flying the confederate flag, that pisses on the graves of those who gave their lives fighting against the flag of treason.
You, personally, are paying these athletes? Or are you implying that these athletes are being paid by the country? Would you say the same thing about hedge fund managers? Are hedge fund managers to be held to some arbitrary standard of patriotism, because they live in a country that allowed them to be rich, or is it just athletes that don’t really deserve what they are “being given”?
Guns and violence, what’s that have to deal with kneeling? Is it just professional athletes that have issues with guns , violence and drugs, or are the fans fed up with every other demographic of americans who can also be described as having the same probelms?
I dunno what this “National Felons League” of yours is.
And if their boss is fine with it, do you, as a random person who is not even a customer of that business have a reason to stick your nose in, and tell someone else’s employees how to express their patriotism?
Yep, and if you were their boss, then you would have some say over what they do when they are at work. You are not, so you don’t. Period.
and if they were protesting their boss or their working conditions or something like that, then the business may not appreciate them doing so on their time and property. If the business has no problem with the message that they are sending, then who are you to tell the business what to do?
And when you own your very own professional sports team, then you can make that decree, until then, telling other people how they are free to express themselves is against the principles that the flag that you are so concerned about represents.
IMHO, telling someone else how they must honor the flag is infinitely more insulting to the flag and everything that it represents than kneeling in front of it.
The only thing I can come up with is spamming the National Anthem. The person is not just making their point, but using the audience of another event to get their audience. It is something along the lines of this is not your stage for your causes. However I do find that reasoning a bit off here, but not totally so because they are pointing out a problem with the authority structure of the country, and not the freedom that the NA stands for.
Good thing you haven’t seen this.
Which is exactly what the protests are about. The wrongs that are being peretrated need to be righted. Hence, the protests.
^ This.
Oh, for goodness sake - no, kneeling is NOT pissing on anything. Kneeling is a sign of respect in every other context I can think of. What’s getting people upset is that in this case the kneeling is about something they either don’t want to think about or don’t agree with.
I get it - you want people to go protest over there, quietly and unobtrusively, so it doesn’t bother you or make you uncomfortable or force you to think about unpleasant things or things you don’t agree with. Well, it’s a pretty lame protest if no one gets upset. When you want the protests to be unobtrusive what you are really saying is you want to get rid of protests.
^ This.
^ And this.
Let’s be honest here, the fact that they’re protesting doesn’t mean they’re not being disrespectful, they are doing what they’re doing IN ORDER to be disrespectful of the flag and of the country in protest of perceived wrongs.
Most of those who are objecting are doing so because they feel disrespecting the flag and the country this way is offensive and that the symbols of our country should be left out of partisan politics.
The fact that so many on the left appear to appear to be approving of disrespecting our national symbols is in large part why those on the left are looked upon as hating America.
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You keep saying they’re being disrespectful. They’re not.
In the minds of a conservative who continues to insist this, any criticism=disrespect.
That is the nature of the protest, they are being disrespectful because they believe that a country that shoots black people for being black is unworthy of their respect so they instead show their disrespect. Not saying I agree with them but it’s a total nonstarter to say they’re not being disrespectful.
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A nation where a piece of cloth is deemed more deserving of respect than the people inhabiting that country is not a nation worthy of respect.