Why is it that only Northern Europeans have been programmed to make themselves into a minority?

[Peremensoe]

@Chen019

The Dalai Lama has similar ideals in terms of wanting to preserve the ethnic and cultural heritage of Tibetans.

There is no reason why there should be a double standard where Europeans are criticised for this but it is accepted as normal for Asian or African countries.

I want to preserve my cultural heritage too. My culture has produced some great things, and I like it. The world is richer for having my culture in it.

That’s an entirely independent proposition from my attitudes about other cultures, which I also enjoy and appreciate and want to have around. My own life is richer in a more multicultural society.

There need be no conflict between valuing one culture, and valuing and welcoming others.

[BrainGlutton]

@Great_Antibob

Well, I notice that RaleighRally has stopped posting in this thread and has instead decided to post in the Pit thread on the Oslo shooter.

Not surprising, but, to be as polite as I can, it is in remarkably poor taste to try to pass the suspect off as an “Oriental” and to try to distance himself from the perpetrator while embracing the same ideals.

Remarkably so, even that fatuous bullshit about “Cultural Marxism” seems to keep popping up in dude’s screeds.

:rolleyes: But, don’t worry, if RR has ducked out, the second string is ready to play.

@Chen019

The Dalai Lama has similar ideals in terms of wanting to preserve the ethnic and cultural heritage of Tibetans.

There is no reason why there should be a double standard where Europeans are criticised for this but it is accepted as normal for Asian or African countries.

[Acsenray]

@Chen019

The Dalai Lama has similar ideals in terms of wanting to preserve the ethnic and cultural heritage of Tibetans.

There is no reason why there should be a double standard where Europeans are criticised for this but it is accepted as normal for Asian or African countries.

I’m not an expert on the Dalai Lama and I don’t follow ever last thing he’s ever said, so I’m open to being corrected on this point. But have never heard the Dalai Lama suggest that he has the right to tell the Chinese to live or not live in certain places or to practice or not engage any particular cultural practice.

So far as I know, all he asks are things such as that the Chinese do not oppress the Tibetans, that they don’t actively work to destroy Tibetan cultural institutions and practices, and that the allow Tibetans a degree of freedom and autonomy to choose for themselves how they want to live.

[MrDibble]

@Chen019

So you think places like Israel have no right to exist? Because that is the logical extension of your position.

No country has a “right” to exist. I’d be happier if we had none. But it does exist, and is capable of enforcing the continuance of its existence, which is all that is required. Tibet, not so much.

And even if this “right” did exist, I don’t think any country *should *exist as an exclusive club for a particular ethnicity, so I’m not a fan of the Right of Return or any other ethnicity tests for immigration, no. I’m all for Israel as what it is, a modern democracy in an otherwise shitty neighbourhood, and I can sympathise with the reasoning for the RoR, but I don’t agree with it and I don’t think it is *essential *for the continued existence of Israel as a state.