I’m not an assumer, I’m a fact checker. This means that I can not rely on sources like Fox News, formerly known as GOP TV, for information. In fact, I haven’t owned a TV in over 15 years because of the regulatory changes that ruined our access to more credible News. So I don’t assume Mr. Romney is more dishonest and less trustworthy than Mr. Obama; I based my opinion on the cold, dry record of facts. Facts are not “suggestions” and they are not partisan. They are not “fair and balanced.” They are what they are.
the bigger issue is not to persuade the hard right, who are immovable objects; it’s to clarify for people like, well, me. i’m a moderate (not registered indy but probably by true association i am) and some of this stuff i’ve complained about swayed me towards the romney camp. then i found out the rest of the story, and it really shifted what points he initially made over me. that is what annoyed/frightens me–his lying and omission of facts nearly swayed even ME.
but once i learned the whole story, any amount of sway evaporated. i wonder how many true independents might be swayed by the lies or turned off by the truth.
intrade doesn’t factor in the percent chance of 2008 (why on earth would you think they did? where’d that come from?)
today it’s up to 63.5%-which in a presidential election IS overwhelming. the highest percentage “landslide” was 61.3%. that’s HUUUUUGE for presidential (pop) vote, and since intrade is a pop-vote surrogate, the percentages are pretty related. obama only actually won by 53% in a similar score for the last election. it’s roughly a 50 50 thing so any amount over 50% bodes pretty well. you show me an election where someone wins by 95%–and it’s not considered utterly insane in terms of landslide victories.
Couldn’t be because people don’t agree with you, could it? Couldn’t be because you’re doing the bullshitting here, could it? Politifact (Rating: Mostly True) doesn’t agree with you, nor Mark Lewis, a guy who was actually there.
Not to mention that getting a “bailout” isn’t an easy thing to do, but Romney pulled it off. So the real question is, why do you think Romney didn’t save the Olympics?
…did you just actually try to say Romney didn’t receive a bail out? saying Romney received a 1.3 billion dollar government bail out to salvage the Olympics is bullshit?
not only is it NOT bullshit, he brags about it…
this is mr. anti-government spending. this is mr. anti-bailouts. ^that guy claims to be against bail outs.
Of course I did. Where do you think I got the quotes in my post?
The point is that he didn’t just get a bailout. He went to private investors and snatched the pennies they were pinching. I don’t know why I’m supposed to believe that was easy or that it didn’t happen. Conclusion = he’s a good business man and the OP is wrong.
then he used those pennies to fund pet projects and lobbied for things that benefited companies he was connected with.
of course, the “op,” --me–never said he wasn’t a good business man. he’s shrewd and merciless and will say/do anything to get what he wants. he will say in one breath bailouts are wrong AND that he should go for the most federal cash-grab he can. he’s a businessman unscrupulously cagey, on par with Trump.
no. what the op said was he was able to do this not because he was able to pull it out by his bootstraps through good business sense. he was able to do it because he received the biggest federal bail out of its kind, ever up to that point.
Wait. Even my aunt, who sends me pictures of “geologic formations in the shapes of animals” (i.e., photoshopped crap) could tell that this was BS. What the hell happens to that pole on the left - does it just enter another dimension?
curious still is that you didn’t rebut any of the other points that have been made. there’s a long list of things Romney has been duplicitous about. odd that the single thing you’ve keyed in on is the bail out (which you agree he received, which is all i said–that he saved the olympics w a bail out, which he fails to ever mention–which is still true).
John McCain:
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[li]Supports CA Prop. 8: one-man-one-woman marriage.[/li][li]Private ceremonies fine, but no gay marriage.[/li][li]Leave gay marriage to the states.[/li][/ul] Barack Obama:
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[li]Same-sex couples should be allowed to marry.[/li][li]No federal laws should hinder state-based same-sex marriage.[/li][li]Opposes CA Prop. 8, one-man-one-woman marriage.[/li][/ul]
It seems that at least some of the media in Ohio are calling Mitt out on his attempt to misrepresent the auto bailout in order to mitigate the damage he did to his prospects in the Rust Belt by opposing it.
