“It became necessary to destroy the country to save it.” It sounds all too familiar, actually.
Good analogy, Bijou.
Why wouldn’t Trump voters vote for Trump? What is the alternative? It’s not as if the Democrat Party has told the yellow dog Democrats who their next Presidential candidate will be. Trump vs Maxine Waters? Trump vs ol’ Hillary? Trump vs Oprah?
Because the Emperor is nekkid as a jaybird? His Hammer of Thor is a shriveled mutation of a Circus Peanut? Like, you know, they caught on?
When Trump said he could shoot a man on fifth avenue and not lose your support, he didn’t mean that as a complement. He was calling you a mindless idiot who would follow him regardless of his actions.
Ahem, Trump prefaced that example by pointing out it was what other people were saying about him. Of course, you would have no way of knowing that without watching (reading?) his original speech that hadn’t been edited for comedic effect, or for propaganda/political purposes.
Video(and audio) that proves you wrong.
Because Trump is uniquely terrible, politically compromised, flagrantly dishonest, and utterly incompetent. The question is not “Why wouldn’t Trump voters vote for Trump?” - which is a useless tautology - but rather, “How could any rational adult excuse or tolerate Trump’s behavior?” And we ask it because the answer is incomprehensible to those of us with actual standards.
But, looking at your post history, it appears you are impervious to objectivity or facts. Don’t feel compelled to respond.
Do not personalize your arguments in this fashion. If you feel you must, the BBQ Pit is right around the corner. As a new poster, I encourage you to familiarize yourself with the rules of the forums you participate in.
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Own the libs.
Whereas you, FYL, should know better.
No warning but give the personalization a rest or this won’t end well.
That goes for all of you. Respect and civility for all.
Try this longer version of Trump’s speech. It’s not edited by haters, and the lame stream media, to exclude who Trump was crediting for saying that he could stand in the middle of 5th Ave. The haters insist on ignoring the part where he says, “they say”.
“…My people are so smart. And you know what else they say about my people? The polls. They say I have the most loyal people. Did you ever see that? Where I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters, okay? It’s, like, incredible.”
Better luck next time.
Because, as the wise saying goes, “A bird in hand is worth two in the bush.” (even an insane and morally diseased one)
They have the presidency in hand because, somehow, contrary to all logic that predicted otherwise, the American system governing the presidential election made him president. You don’t throw that away for any reason, moral or otherwise.
Uh, that’s “the polls”. “The polls” say that his people are that loyal. Not the media. High-dive platform face plant, empty pool.
Look:
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[li]No poll ever asked “would you still vote for Trump if he shot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue.”[/li][li]Trump’s statement about what the polls “said” was made-up hyperbole, and a brag about how extremely popular he believed the polls showed him to be.[/li][li]No one but Trump said he could shoot a man and still retain votes. Polls did not say that. At all. [/li][li]The preceding points are factual; there is no other interpretation of the facts. This is basic literacy 101. What Trump said is not up for debate, nor is any context missing.[/li][*]The issue that we (speaking for the entire Left, so sue me) have is that it feels pretty gross to us to have an elected official who chooses to invent the hyperbolic interpretation of his popularity polls that he could kill a man and still get elected.[/ul]
Even Joe Walsh and John McCain are calling Trump out on his Putin summit. Maybe things are starting to turn around.
There is that moment as the herd stirs nervously, just before the signal goes out to stampede…
“You are now authorized to panic.”
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[li]No one but Trump said he could shoot a man and still retain votes. Polls did not say that. At all. [/li][/QUOTE]
Specifically, yes. More broadly, there were numerous other examples of egregious conduct that he *did *demonstrate that did not cost him votes. The statement was rhetorical but not unsupported.
For sure. I’m just trying to refute the argument (if you can call it that) that “he never said it, he was just saying that other people said it.”
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/take-close-note-of-this
Trey Gowdy says that they just need to convince Trump that the Russian interference doesn’t mean that his win wasn’t legitimate, then everything will be OK. No, really, there’s the link. I swear, I am not making this up!