Y’know, they are really starting to annoy me with those drive-by postings. Why they think I would care, I don’t know. It’s like they’re begging me to convert them or something. I can’t think of any other good reason why people would run around saying, “I don’t believe in God!” all the time.
The name “Peter” is a version of the Latin “Petros”, meaning “rock”. This is a translation of the Aramaic “Kefas”, which was Simon’s nickname.
So, basically, Simon was known as “Rocky”, which really puts a different complexion on things.
“Yo, Hadrian!” 
Around here, we take real life and/or death as something that is cited and proven. This is not doctrine. It is a leap of faith. Never confuse the two. 
You are proclaiming as real something that is entirely unproven/unprovable and unciteable. Even in G.D., that is something of a stretch. For all that you know, the Hallmark Moment version replete with white robes, wrought iron gates and a huge book is in point of fact exactly how it will be.
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I’m not saying what I think or believe or not. I’m only saying that even in G.D., you cannot go espousing as factual doctrine what is in fact entirely unprovable. Whatever may be, may be. Whatever is, is. No way of knowing until it’s too late to cite and post here on the Straight Dope.
If there is a Great Beyond, and it includes Internet Cafe’s and The Straight Dope then by all means- when a Doper who has died posts in here citing and proving definitively, you better believe I am gonna be wayyyyyy up front in line to apologize for not taking everybody’s word for it.
Till then, cite please?
It comes from a lifetime of having people knock on my door, or interrupt my conversations, or just butt in wherever and shove pamphlets at me like a coked-up baccarat dealer.
“Is Jesus in your heart?”
“Are you prepared for the after life?”
“Have you found God?”
Yeah, I found him. Now, is it my turn to hide yet?
The OP was a valid one, though, and I shouldn’t have hijacked it. It’s just that, too me at least, I had the chance to do to them, what they’ve always done to me. It sucks when someone comes from nowhere and craps all over your day with asinine remarks about your preparation for the afterlife or asks you about your relationship with a pink unicorn. Your frustration at my post indicates that you don’t like to be interrupted either, correct? Now you know how I feel.
Wow. I suppose if the posters in this thread had been the people knocking at your door…you might actually have a valid point.
More’s the pity.
I think my point is valid enough, thank you.
Oh.
So the “them” that bother you at your door are the same “them” participating in this thread?
Interesting outlook on life, that kind of generalization.
No, I was illustrating that the complaints aimed at me for coming in and pissing all over this thread like a drunken yard cat are comparable to having someone interrupt my day by jamming a Jesus newsletter in my face while I stand in my bathrobe attempting to enjoy the sanctity of my Saturday.
If I was in any way unclear about that, I apologize.
Yeah, but if you brush your hair right, no one will notice it.
Ahem…
Well, How are you doin’?
As regards your relationship with the I.P.U., blessed be her hoves, that is.
(Trying to turn this thread into a flirting thread? Not in the least. :] )
Okay, foul. blows the whistle
“I was annoyed once by a person who happened to be Irish, therefore I go out of my way to annoy anyone with an Irish name.”
Logical? No. Rude? Yes.
Your actions in this thread are unjustified, no matter how justified you seem to think they are.
Unless you’re trying to say how impressed you were with the Christians that annoyed you - since imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Did you just decide you wanted to be like them?
CandidGamera, what are you doing with a whistle? You are clearly a skyscraper sized turtle, no a referee.
Nevermind that. Anyway. While christians who annoy people from going door to door may not be the same people who post here, they are both people who support a book that instructs them to be annoying. (remember the part about “you shall be fisher of men?”) They both hold the same philosophy, unlike how some irish people do not derive their philosophy from the bible, so it is not a fair comparison after all.
Yeah, and “gay” means “happy and carefree” but that doesn’t mean I won’t get punched if I told a happy and carefree Mike Tyson he was acting gay.
I propose the rest of the English-speaking world take “beg the question” away from the ten or fifteen people who use it correctly and make THEM come up with a replacement. It’s not that it isn’t a nonsensical construction of random words, anyway. :mad:
Moderator’s Note: No personal insults in Great Debates, please.
That said, there’s really no reason to turn this thread into a shouting match about proselytizing, or “Who’s worse, door-to-door missionaries or drive-by atheists?” There are other threads (and even other forums) for that sort of thing.
Rilchiam, Jesus had a heart-to-heart later with Peter over the deny-me-thrice business, although without the book to hand I can’t tell you which of the four Gospels this is in.
Regarding Judas: He didn’t do what he did in order to further God’s work, that’s why. He betrayed Jesus for entirely selfish reasons. God brought good out of the evil that Judas did, but who’s to say that Christ’s sacrifice couldn’t have happened some other way without Judas getting himself all messy?
If I strangled a child to death tomorrow and a real old-fashioned-type saint or prophet brought that child back to life in an incontrovertible miracle that brought millions to God, so much the better for everyone concerned - except me. I set out to murder, and I deserve the punishment.
I see. Thank you!
No worries. Any friend of Lewis Carroll’s…