Laurie, two questions:
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What are you smoking?
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Where can I get some, and for how much?
Well, I’m full of gin right now and Laurie’s posts make perfect sense to me.
If you read her contributions through a half-full Sapphire bottle, you’ll see she’s saying you “catch” your orientation from your early sexual experiences.
For example, if you have a “tickle fight” with another similarly-aged chum and accidentally get your rocks off, you’ll end up gay. You’ll be effectively groomed into gayness.
Puts a whole new twist on Private School, now doesn’t it?
(Of course, if any of this were reasonable, I must be a latent onanisexual. Sort of explains my unusual appreciation for Paul Reubens’ work, come to think of it.)
On preview, it seems I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue…
Are you claiming that believing things about groups of people that can be factually shown to be false with absolutely no effort or requirement for scientific knowledge is a religion for you?
Tell me, were you born into the Church of the Head in the Sand, or did you convert to it?
You can believe in God and supernatural things all you want, but believing that homosexuality is caused by pre-teen molestation is like believing the sky is brown, and rains diamonds onto your house on odd-numbered Thursdays. There is a difference betwen faith in the unknowable and mystical and belief in statements whcih can be trivially shown to be factually false.
“It’s just my opinion and I don’t care what you think!”, when applied to a statement of fact or falsehood, is the last foxhole of those who can’t or won’t think through their belief system, which can’t be defended because it makes no sense.
What are you on?
Da’hell?
Not for all the money in the world. Not even if I got to do Ewan McGregor, Goran Visnjic and Noah Wyle afterwards in a forty-eight hour marathon orgy.
For some reason, Laurie’s posts are making me flash on James Joyce…
…except without the intelligence or genius…
This is all, of course, absolutely true. You’ll have to forgive me - I was so confounded by Laurie’s posting style that I could not think coherently.
It doesn’t seem to me that anyone here is really stating their opinions. This is all about belief. Opinions are sort of ephemeral. Say two people are arguing about whether Johnny Depp or Brad Pitt is sexier. There’s never going to be a study that definitively proves who is sexiest. However, you can prove whether homosexuality is a genetic flaw or simply an uncommon trait, just as you can prove whether or not homosexuality is caused by abuse. You can even find out whether there is an afterlife, if that afterlife includes some form of eternal punishment, and if sexual preference is a deciding factor. Granted, you’d have to die for that, and you can’t share your findings with anyone, but at least you’ll know the truth.
Also, opinions are sort of lightweight, innocuous things. If I argue with someone (I don’t know, Guinastasia) about the relative hotness of Brad Pitt v. Johnny Depp, it probably won’t lead to blows. I won’t call her defective, she won’t condemn me to Hell, and neither of us will try to prevent the other from getting married. When you’re getting into beliefs, you’re getting into things that are personal, and can be very painful, and things are often said that are incredibly cruel.
Humans are entitled to beliefs and opinions, as many as they want. No thought police are going to be running around making you fall in line, paranoid rants in this thread notwithstanding. But if you say something stupid or hurtful or completely nonsensical, someone is going to call you on it. Why you would expect otherwise is totally beyond me.
It’s very simple, wring. As on Buffy with the First Evil, there exists an eternal “First Homo” who spawned a race of evil molesting homosexuals to perpetuate itself down through time.
Laurie, one of the finest, most decent human beings I know is a guy I’ve known since 5th grade who happens to be gay. He has shown honor, courage and kindness under fire behaving like a true Christian in the best sense of the word. I get the impression you and others are asking me to discard all of the genuine good in this man because he is a homosexual and, in your eyes a sinner. I refuse to do so, and I believe that to do so would be contrary to the teachings of Jesus Christ who we both allegedly follow. Am I to discard all of one person because of one aspect of his personality, and an aspect which he has, to the best of my knowledge, indulged honorably? If the answer to that is “Yes”, then I will discard my faith because a god who would have me do that is an abomination.
Last February, there was a point when things were looking very bad. I’d been in a car accident, I was still unemployed, and two very dear friends who had recenlty moved away were coping with the aftermath of her stroke. At that time, on the Christian messageboard I used to frequent, I was being savaged as was my character. At that time, my friend and his partner said to each other, “Right, she’s had enough. We’re flying her out here!” As things worked out, things started looking up at that point, but the offer was there and genuine. I haven’t met his partner yet; we’ve only talked over the phone, but his partner was willing to do that for me. Who’s company am I supposed to prefer? Then again, it seems to me Christ always did have more sympathy for the Samaritans than those who counted themselves righteous.
I understand that there are those who consider homosexuality sinful, and probably a lot more people who wish the issue would just go away. On the other hand, I don’t understand why this aspect is apparently supposed to override all other aspects. I would much rather have the company of an honorable homosexual who intends to spend the rest of his life married to a man he loves and respects than a dishonorable heterosexual who has cheated on each of his last 3 wives. The latter, by the way, would have no legal barrier to marrying a 4th time. The former would not be allowed to marry once.
CJ
LAURIE here…
Oooo(an ‘h’ in there) Oooohhooo…
I am, OF COURSE, a person who HATES homosexuals.
Pulllleeeezzz…
I CAN NOT stand the thought of males putting their PENI into another man’s mouth or anus…
Female ‘homosexuals’ and male ‘homosexuals’ can do whatever they want, with whomever they want, at any sexual time it drives them.
Just - goddamn -
QUIT trying to make ME accept that your sexual proclivities are worth dying for.
AIDS has been accepted , under—stooood and bypassed because now there are drugs which can help AIDS survivors stay alive much longer…
BILLIONS OF GODDAMN DOLLARS TO AN AFRICAN COUNTRY (or any goddamn country) FOR THE ‘STUDY’ OR ‘HELP’ WITH AIDS???
Those poor damn children and females and men who contracted AIDS because they needed blood…or sex… or a ‘fix’…
Therefore…let us
connect AIDS to homosexual male activity.
OH…Oh…WAIT…
Some male homosexuals admit that their behavior led to AIDS being passed to other people?
FIFTEEN FUCKIN BILLION DOLLARS to another country for AIDS…per the Bush presidency…
How about BILLIONS of dollars promised for our children?
My LORD.
Do you understand.
How… RIDICULOUS you sound?
Hmmmmmm…
I DON’T THINK YOU do.
My son is in kindergarten. Even at that age, he understands that a sentence must contain a subject and a verb to be able to convey a thought or make a point.
DNFTT! DNFTT! DNFTT!!!
From the FAQ:
Q: What should I do when I see a user “trolling” at the SDMB?
A: Do not publicly accuse someone of trolling at the SDMB. Use the “Report this post to a moderator” facility below the “trolling” post. Do not reply to the troll in any way in the thread, that will only encourage the troublemaker.
Forum check: The BBQ Pit. This is the place for all complaints and other discussion regarding the administration of the SDMB.
Ok, why isn’t this particular rule being enforced?
Are you saying TeaElle shouldn’t have insinuated Laurie is a troll (by crying DNFTT)?
Or are you saying that we should ignore Laurie because we suspect her to be a troll?
To the former, I’d suggest that TeaElle is trying to warn us to follow that rule.
To the latter, I’d say that, in my case, I’ve just been trying to argue with her coherently to fight ignorance… but that I’m starting to think she’s either in a crazed state that I can’t break through, or she’s just posting for reaction. In either case, she’s become so incoherent that her posts probably don’t deserve response, and are almost impossible to respond to for want of comprehension.
Do you have reason to believe that Lynn or another member of the administration has seen this post in the short time since it was posted? Why not let the mods moderate with your insipid comments?
Hey, I’m just asking a question, in the appropriate forum. I reported a similiar DNFTT comment in another thread yesterday, and there hasn’t been any response. So I question if this is an actual board rule that will be enforced, or just a suggestion.
Excuse me while I make a run for tin-foil while I still can…
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Moderators have lives too, you know. Sometimes we get away from the computer and actually do stuff. Or sometimes we’re sick. Sometimes WE can’t get into the board to read it. Sometimes this happens to several mods at once.
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Not all reports are treated the same (by me, can’t speak for the other mods). If I get a report from someone I know is basically a whiner, who apparently has a grievance against the message board and its staff, that report is assigned a much lower priority than one from someone who I know does not have some sort of grudge against the staff and/or other posters. Generally, I WILL try to look at all reports from the BBQ Pit, if I’m not sick. If I’m sick, I tend to blow them off. However, I do prioritize things…first, I’ll ban the active spammer (one who is online and posting spam right then and there), then the inactive spammer, and then I’ll work on my list of reports. I will continue working until my butt gets sore, or I need to do something else, or the board starts timing out on me too much. Then I take a break. Sometimes this means that I don’t act on things in the most timely manner. I do the best I can.
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Posting “DNFTT” is a relatively minor offense. I probably won’t ever ban someone JUST for doing that, unless it’s used as harassment.
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Still, people, DO NOT POST “DNFTT”, or accusations of trolling, or asking someone if they’re trolling. Posting DNFTT is, in effect, feeding the troll. I don’t see why this is so hard to understand.
Lynn
For the Straight Dope
What’s that whooshing sound? Oh, I think it’s me not getting what you mean 
Is it something I said?
On preview, I see Lady Lynn herself has graced us.
Thanks. I’ve seen it posted several times, and wasn’t sure if it was recommended or not. I shan’t do it.