What is your position on a sausage or chicken biscuit? Sandwich or no?
Where are you from? You’re using the word “roll” in a sense that I’m unfamiliar with—plus I’ve never heard of some of the things you mention.
I’ve heard UK people use “roll”; sausage roll, bacon roll, etc.
Isn’t it the usual prescriptive versus descriptive use of language that threads on grammar, words, and pronunciation always devolve into?
If you believe that all words are defined prescriptively, then “sandwich” is restricted to a well defined set of objects (though anyone using this approach should be able to point to an authoritative prescriptive source, not just there own definition).
If you believe that words are defined descriptively, by their usage by a significant portion of the speakers of the language, then a sandwich is anything you can point to and ask “is that a sandwich” and would get a majority of relies “yes, that’s a sandwich”.
South Africa. And I linked to the gatsby already. Prego steak roll is Portuguese - steak in peri-peri sauce. A chip roll is self-explanatory. Well, no, I guess I also need to explain that’s non-American usage of “chip”, as in “fish and”
I think it’s more Lumpers vs Splitters, myself.
That’s still not self-explanatory. Are you saying that is a sandwich (excuse me, a “roll”) with chips (American french fries) as the filling? I can’t say I’ve ever heard of something like that before.
Have tried it. Don’t like it.
Is that directed at me? I’m not sure, can you describe those foods? Is that like the breakfast sandwiches they sell at fast food places? (the thing with an english muffin, an egg, maybe a sausage patty, and perhaps some cheese) I guess if it is, I would call them sandwiches.
In general, if there’s bread on the outside and you can pick it up and eat it with your fingers with minimal fuss, I’ll probably think it’s some sort of sandwich.
I’m also struggling to guess what this is. Is it like… a bready bun that you’ve cut in half and put fried potatoes into?
“Chip roll” is a french fry sandwich, basically. Take a sub roll or Kaiser roll and stuff it with deep fried potato hunks. Carb overload.
The question on biscuits was directed generally to people who think rolls are distinct from bread in some fashion.
I’ve seen it on gyros in the States, but never any other kind of sandwich.
huh. Not something I’ve noticed. But I wouldn’t buy such an item, so maybe I’ve seen it and forgotten it.
I often pick some of the break off my sandwich, and give my leftover chips/fries to someone else at the table.
If I said “It’s like a chip butty, but on a bap”, would that mean anything to you?
Also known as a “chip butty” in some parts of the English-speaking world. Not a big fan of it myself, not of putting French fries on a sandwich (like in a Cleveland Polish boy or a Primanti’s sandwich). In all cases, the chips added nothing to the sandwich.
That said, I do like Indian vada pav, which really isn’t all that different conceptually. It’s a deep friend spiced potato patty but into a soft bun (similar to a soft dinner roll – I thought the word came from the Chinese bao but it comes from the Portuguese pão, which makes sense given their colonial influence in India.) It’s then topped with chutney(s) and a fried hot green chile, if you wish. It was my favorite street food in Mumbai.
If I didn’t read books by British authors, no. Those words would be meaningless to an American. And I agree – a sandwich whose primary filling is french fries is not something I’d ever order.
Chips are not quite the same as French fries. We had that discussion in a recent thread. I think consensus was they were more like steak fries. But yes, a roll with chips as the filling.
Urgh. Steak fries would be worse. Big and mealy. Smaller pieces would be more appealing to me.
It’s a very common option in fish and chip shops. It’s better than some of the battered abominations …
Here, it’s a much cheaper option than anything with fish or meat. So it’s usually kids buying it with pocket money, or some manual labourer wanting to carb up for the afternoon.
If you sauce and spice it up enough a la the vada pav, I can see it working. Are there variations like that? Not specifically with Indian spices (though that would make sense in South Africa) but just sexing it up a little?
I’d rather just eat the chips, then. It’s the chips and the roll that just sounds like something that I would rather not eat. It’s fine for kids and workers who are burning lots of calories…sounds perfect for them!
South African chips aren’t mealy. They’re softer and floppier than UK chips or steak fries. They are perfect for this kind of thing. I rate them over any chip I’ve had in the UK, or any French fry I ever had in my brief time in Houston.