The important thing, if you’re going by the “Last 100 posts” standard is counting the number of threads he was complaining in.
So Seven got into a small number of threads where he posted multiple times about Liberal (what, 3, 4 threads?)
So?
It’s not the number of actual posts–if he was stalking Liberal around the board, sure. But posting in like 4 threads about Liberal and another 5 or 6 threads about the rules? How is that a problem?
Here’s an example of a helpful post by Seven: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10957526&postcount=6. I disagree with you that his only reason for being here was to complain. Lately maybe; but not for the entirety of his 4,000 + posts.
I think that a poster’s past history should carry some weight in a banning decision. So Seven was grumpy lately about things at the SDMB, that doesn’t warrant an insta-ban. This was a bad call.
I’d also be interested in learning how many posters reported any of the posts that got Seven banned. Was he viewed as disruptive by the actual customers of the SDMB, or only by the mods/admins?
shrug
Those 100 posts went back to March, so it’s not as though the sample size was “last week”, and I think ~4 months is long enough to determine whether it’s just a phase.
If somebody wants to do a more in-depth study of his recent posting habits you’re more than welcome to.
Yeah… that was the 100th post, counting backwards, and one of the 3 non-whining posts I counted.
I agree that his previous posting history should be taken into account, but only to a point. He apparently was here to do more than complain for a long time, but as I noted above, he really hadn’t been for at least 4 months.
I assume he was making useful contributions at GB during that time, which kind of says something about his reasons for being here- though again, I don’t think that should have been taken into account.
Fenris, you’re SO naive! It’s a problem because **Marley **doesn’t like it and also wants to be the very firstest and fastest with preemptively protecting Tuba–he gets a Snausage from **Ed **every time he does it. Snausages come dear, don’tcha know, and it’s hard out there for a mod–Snausages don’t just fall from the sky! This might get him a whole extra Snausage as a bonus, and you can’t expect him to pass up an extra Snausage, now can you?
Permit me to take a plumber’s crack at this one:
1-The Powers That Be & Their Chosen Ones are always right.
2-If and when found in the wrong, please read rule #1
Simple really.
Affectaciously,
~NickInUpperLeftCorner & BottomLeftAsWellDueToEdit.
Not when the circumstance is as stupid as these are. If you think these are analogous, it’s a good thing your opinions have no more weight than mine.
Regards,
Shodan
Can it still be considered an insult when one does no more nor less than state the simple objective truth? More to the point, can it be considered an insult if the poster in question is not at all insulted, but sees the words as a blazon of honor?
I really don’t want to try to tell someone what to say, but attempting to equate a message board banning with rape is a bit of a stretch and doesn’t really help with ‘the cause’ (whatever that might be today).
Hmph. Another one of these trainwrecks. And, again, self-inflicted.
Pretty much agree. Maybe seven was being an annoying gadfly towards management lately, but he was here a long time and he had some cause to bitch IMO. I won’t call it an insta-ban, insomuch as he had been warned. But the banning was unusually abrupt for such a long-time member.
Foolishness.
Does it? What does it say to you, because it doesn’t even send me a post card.
Only if you moderate a successful message board. The implicit logic behind this decision is that if the Dope is such a horrible place and his own message board is not, he must ergo be a troll posting here for purely malicious purposes.
Pure fucking spite, and Marley posting such weak shit as ‘proper evidence’ for the banning is proof that there is much more going on than the mods are willing to admit.
You’d think that if they took that long to come up with a prepared statement they’d do a better job of it.
Regards,
Shit steam pork boot.
Perhaps you’re acquainted with the term reductio ad absurdum?
This is what bothers me about perma-banning as the only real punishment here. If someone has a long history of being a good poster, but gets frustrated with the staff and/or rules after some major changes get made, does this make them irredeemable? Isn’t it possible that as time goes on, emotions will cool and the poster will return to posting as they did before? Several of our long time posters expressed far stronger feelings against the staff during past controversies – it would have been a waste to permanently bar them from the site forever after.
I was going to say that it tells me he doesn’t really give a shit about the SDMB, but then I read the first paragraph of Jeff’s post, which made me realize I might not have been thinking about this from all possible perspectives.
As I read the current rules [dons Junior Mod cap] since 7 is no longer a member/poster/guest/whatev in the SDMB, he is eligible to have "fuck you and die"s, "cunt-head"s, and other delights heaped upn his person in abundance.[/doffs Junior Mod cap–wow, do those things hurt!].
Of course, I may be totally off on that, but that was just my first thought–another motivation not to get your nasty selves banned around here.
Ok, although I still think this was a stupid thing to do, I must say that for the first time ever I must commend TPTB for having the *cojones *to ban someone “just because” and **almost **own up to it.
“Recreational complaining and trolling” is still a chicken shit way of saying “for making fun of one of the untouchables” but at least doesn’t try to hide behind some trumped up cases of some ridiculous made up rule.
At least this way you don’t get caught on the indefensible position of making “mop the floor with your butt” a threat or something.
Progress comes in little steps.
I still don’t think that after 4 months he was going to go back to… however he was before he got all pissy (there’s only one poster who does that), but after participating in this thread I can’t really say I’m on board with this banning anymore.
Thus, I’ll bow out of this thread, and I won’t really have much to say about it if his banning is overturned.
Just like Ed has a million votes on policy, Tuba has a [b/tr]million warning waivers and gets an additional one for every post. She might still run out, but don’t hold your breath.
Really? A message board on which the staff and mods have the final say on board decisions? Wow, that’s a novelty. It must be the only one on the net.
As for Seven, he’d grown so contemptuous of the running of the board lately that I’m surprised he’d want to keep posting here, unless he enjoys needling the mods, of course. Maybe the staff should have given him a little more rope with which to hang himself but I can certainly understand the temptation to kick away the stool.