Not really, sorry. (Curse you, public education!!) If I had to guess, I’d say it’s something about taking a statement to the extreme to show how absurd it is. In my opinion (and your mileage obviously does vary), that only serves to make the person saying it look absurd, and ignoring the problem that’s right in front of them.
Sorry for the hijack.
How on earth can you all expect something of us that you can’t seem to nail down yourselves?
Now why not go run along and think up so more “exciting new things!” for the board that are just over the horizon.
Where is Alanis when you need her?
What a load of crap. You know damned good and well that you’re not allowed to directly insult someone in ATMB. This “if it is against the rules” is cowardly at best but more like extremely dishonest.
I know we’re not allowed to insult other posters in ATMB. Seven is no longer a poster.
You think that I have a ‘yen for the ban’? What the hell gives you that idea? Because things have changed in the years that I was offline and I asked some questions? Because I made a dumbass mistake and got my first (and only, I believe) warning?
Right dude…I’m actually TRYING to get banned. That’s why I try and prevent the ignorance that is lekatt in GD when he posts bullshit he knows nothing about.
sheesh…sailor was right about you, and, from what I’ve seen since I came back, so is everyone else. If I wanted to get insta-banned like seven did, I’d call you a ____ or tell you to go ____ yourself.
Way to fight ignorance, something which you apparently know nothing about.
I thought we weren’t supposed to insult people who were banned and could therefore no longer defend themselves. Or was that merely a precedent and not an actual rule?
It’s only a rule when they want it to be.
Gotcha.
Ya.
I’m wondering if an effort is ever made to take the poster aside and talk off-board a bit. Maybe try to determine what’s gotten under his skin to make him suddenly antagonistic. Is that ever done?
Although it totally cracks me up that you chose THAT of all possible examples to illustrate a point (any point, really), I think it would be a great disservice to let that post go mentioned without bringing up my response to it where I make the case that the accusation of recreational complaining was the lamest of all the made up crap you brought against me. So for the sake of completion:
Is that a rule?
I thought that was just why they closed zombie threads.
To do so would be to acknowledge that “mistakes were made.” TPTB are better at denying history than the Soviets ever were.
It’s mostly the “you deserve to be called a shit” in post #197. Although nothing has happened as a result, so maybe it will pass unnoticed. Same with Syntropy calling me a troll and all that.
Better up the ante.
Regards,
Shodan
Sometimes it’s done by third parties interested in an overall goal of message board harmony.
FWIW…however much that may be…
Marley;
I mean this sincerely. Please do not read any snark into it: I am sorry, VERY sorry, that you were placed in the position of arguing with some 70 people and delivering an unpopular decision without any recognizable support from your administrators. Although I disagree with your reasoning and everything you have said in this thread, I do believe that you care about this board and want what is best for it. I find it entirely unconscionable that you have been designated to defend what is (yes, IMO) an indefensible position without at least one post of agreement from another moderator or administrator, and I am offended on your behalf that at this point, you have been made to look like a mouth piece. I would never leave my employees twisting in the wind in the way you have been made to. I wish you luck.
NOTE: I was not there when the decision was made to ban Seven, so I cannot address the banning directly. I will, however, answer some of the specific questions I think need to be answered:
The mods do not (and cannot) police private messages or emails. We couldn’t read your PMs even if we wanted to.
It is against the rules to post private correspondence from anybody without their permission.
No.
Members of this board are free to own, operate, moderate, participate in, and read any message board they so choose.
We don’t allow recruiting and we don’t allow inciting board wars. That said, if you want to go over to Giraffe’s board or the snarkpit and post that I’m a twit, have at it.
Really? Comprehend much? Here’s EXACTLY what I said in post #197:
Now if you’re talking about what I said in post #192:
Then you’re still wrong, I neither implied nor said that you deserve to be called a shit. I SAID that it was funny that someone called you shitdan, which it is.
Is that written down somewhere?
I think it has been, with fairly limited success. Usually there is a difference of opinion between the staff and the poster that is not going to be resolvable just by discussion.
I’d like to see one of two options applied in these situations: either you live with posters who you know don’t like some aspects of how you’re running your message board and will point it out to you whenever they can, or you put them on a longish suspension, say 3-6 months. I personally don’t think anything Seven has done even remotely qualifies for suspension or banning, but since the staff obviously feels differently, I’d push for the latter in this case, and in all future similar cases. Why throw away a good poster forever over a short period of high emotion? That’s like getting a divorce the first time you and your spouse have a big fight. (OK, it’s really not like that at all, but I don’t have any better analogies and I like to finish posts like this with an analogy. It’s like having dessert at the end of a big meal.)
It was fairly standard policy back in the day. Even with banning threads in the Pit, calling the departed names was…considered being a jerk. It wasn’t enough to get you an official warning that I ever recall, but it would get mods telling you to back off. You could talk about the various ways you disagreed with the bannee and found his views/behavior distasteful, but it Wasn’t Done to call him, say, a useless douche.
Of course, that was back in the Good Old Days when it felt like the people running this place and the people providing the actual content were all on the same team.
One more moderator note:
Directly insulting another poster is not allowed in ATMB, and YES this includes posters that have been suspended or banned.
Please stop doing it now.