In fairness, the offer was not really on acceptable terms- the Taliban were willing to turn him over to a neutral third party, and there’s no telling what would have happened then.
Yes, he does; unfortunately, Obama doesn’t have a President and a Congress who are in his party and theoretically on his side, with a vested interest in seeing the country not tank. Even one month’s worth of brilliant economic strategies could bring about enough prosperity & change to guarantee a landslide victory. Unfortunately, they’re not going to use Obama’s plan.
What’s their excuse for not doing what McCain says needs to be done?
Want to hear a better question? If Obama wins, do you think he’ll call up Obama and tell him the secret plan?
Actually, I’m thinking more Anton Chigurh. “Call it in the air, my friend.”
For the next debate drinking game, if McCain says “my friendo,” chug.
Gladly.
[URL=“Transcript of second McCain, Obama debate - CNN.com”]In the last dabate,](Bush rejects Taliban offer to hand Bin Laden over | Afghanistan | The Guardian) there was this exchange:
This makes it seem as if bin Laden had escaped Afghanistan after our invasion of Iraq, which isn’t so at all - he actually made it into Pakistan shortly after the American invasion of Afghanistan and more than a year before the Iraq invasion. It is believed to have been after the Tora Bora battle in December 2001. This Time article from a year before the Iraq invasion shows American forces stepping up their search for bin Laden in the Afghan-Pakistani border region.
So when I say Obama makes similar statements - well, he does. It’s all just more political theater on both sides.
You seriously don’t see a difference between Obama’s assertion that you believe is wrong and what McCain said?
[Blackadder] Does this plan involve a turnip? [/Blackadder]
Given the existing rancor between McCain and the party line, one may assume that Bush has not employed the McCain plan because he considers it inaccurate or impossible, not because McCain has never told him. I’m an Obama man, but this is a lame pitting and a waste of spew.
I think Mcwhatever fears that if he revealed his sure-fire absolutely guaranteed method to end this war, then Bush might seize the info, end the war and then take credit for it, leaving poor John to be only an asterisk in history . That’s the only reason I can come up with as to why a person sworn to do his best to protect the USA refuses to reveal exactly how to end this war that isn’t really a war but isn’t winnable anyway.
I don’t know about that. What not-so-thinly veiled references to “another Holocaust” giveth, the nomination of Sarah Palin taketh away. There is little American Jews are more suspicious of is folks who wear their evangelical Christian views on their sleeves and aggresively mix religion with politics.
It’s not a coincidence that McCain lost Florida after Palin was put on the ticket.
It wasn’t originally a pitting as it was opened in GD and moved by the moderator, and anyway, I think it’s a legitimate question. McCain has been saying he "know"s “how to” [fill in the blank] quite a bit during his campaign, yet he’s never, to my knowledge, done any of the things he says he knows how to do, nor has he, as I understand it, telegraphed this great and important knowledge to anyone.
If he actually knows how to do any of these things, one would believe it incumbent upon him to share now, for the sake of the country, wouldn’t one?
I guess an alternative explanation is he has shared, but no one takes him seriously.
I believe “hubris” is the word we are searching for here.
To state the issues and present goals on solving them based on practical theories and viewpoints is one thing. To say, “I know how to do it,” without offering anything more is hubris.
I don’t know about you, but I find it easy to accept “I told Bush but he wouldn’t listen” as a very likely situation.
How is your cite like McCain’s secret plan to get Osama? We can quibble about the timeline in Afghanistan, but that doesn’t equate to McCain boasting that he knows how to get Bin Laden through unspecified means.
Because they’re both rhetorical points in the debate intended to sway voters, but are largely bullshit.
This argument is weak as water, and I suspect you know it.
McCain - “I have a plan to catch Osama.” I HAVE a plan. To catch him. NOW.
Obama: “The situation in Pakistan is difficult.” THE REASON IT IS DIFFICULT IS BECAUSE WE “got distracted, we diverted resources, and ultimately bin Laden escaped, set up base camps in the mountains of Pakistan in the northwest provinces there.”
If you think that these two statements are even remotely equivalent, then you are beyond hope, my friend.
If McCain never told Bush, then he is more of a piece of slime then I thought. I doubt this is the case. I’m sure Bush would love to have bin Laden caught during his tenure to slightly improve his place in history, so if there was a plan I agree it was an implausible one. “We just use the psychics the CIA recruited to find him, then get the Enterprise to send down a landing party to take him.” That kind of plan.
Actually, I think the real problem is that McCain is getting forgetful, and he left the plan in another house - he can’t remember which one.
Hey now, you read the Rolling Stone article on John McCain didn’t you?
Man, I thought I was the only one who thought that McCain was deliberately trying to make his voice sound like Reagan’s.
“They all hate us anyhow; let’s drop the big one now.”