Why would Obama even contemplate an Obama-Hillary ticket? The notion is absurd.

She’s angling for an invite, but she has no real leverage, she has been graceless in pending defeat (so far) and she would be very unlikely to make a good second banana. Plus I rather doubt they would get along.

Unless Obama utterly loses his mind it’s an absurd notion.

I would tend to agree. If he invited her to be the VP it would be obvious it isn’t because of any qualifications, its because of her die hard supporters votes. Are those votes so make it or break it?

I find it hilarious that Hillary wanted Obama to take the number 2 spot months ago while he was ahead but now is angling for it herself. Please, can we just get rid of this awful woman? theres not much more than trouble that she can ultimately bring to the table.

I think she’d be a bad choice, but it isn’t like there aren’t reasons to consider her.

Sure, those reasons get overshadowed pretty quickly by the reasons not to take her on, but she’s at least worth the thought :stuck_out_tongue:

Yeah, the idea that HillBilly should be VP is beyond absurd, it’s gone to plaid.

Reasons to take her on: Millions of Hillary supporters who have threatened to stay home or switch sides might rethink their positions.

Reasons not to: she’s a meanie face, and we hates her!

Seriously guys, think about this rationally. There is no better choice for VP than Hillary, if the criteria we use is “who will make Obama more likely to win the election”

While you think only about the next 5 months, we’ll be thinking about the 4-8 years that follow. It’s not just about getting elected, it’s about being able to do your job properly. Hillary is a terrible choice when thinking about who SHOULD be VP, as opposed to thinking merely about electability.

I really honeslty believe that if Hillary were VP, the Clintons would have what it takes to have Obama assassinated. I really do. I really believe that Hillary is that psychotically enamoured and entitled. But, even short of that, I think she’d stick her nose in every bit of business she possibly could, mucking it up every step of the way.

I’m not going to go into the whole baggage thing that she’ll bring along…and she will…but the meanie face? Well in a way you’re right. Character does count. Even in politics.

From what I’ve seen of her character in the past few months i wouldn’t want her for VP. So seriously guy/ gal (I don’t know your gender, sorry)…think of the millions of Obama supporters that threatened to not vote for Hillary and might feel backstabbed if Obama…the man who wants to change stuff from business as usual…gives her the VP spot. Think about how that can only be intepreted as a backroom deal to get her voters. I can’t remember the name, but it was cited somewhere last night when a former hillary supporter claimed I’m not a bargaining chip I’m a democrat. Well, thats exactly what those voters are being used for. I’d resent it if i were them. Just as I resent the idea that the VP might be someone who was only offered the job because of them.

I think she would be a terrible choice as a VP. 1) how can he maintain being a candidate of change when his running mate is an entrenched political hack who voted for making the most catastrophic mistake in the history of American foreign policy? 2) Bill Clinton as the husband of the VP will be running his mouth and making bad headlines every week; 3) she would be completely unwilling to stay on message and play for the team, the president would be overshadowed by his VP; 4) she has almost as many people who hate her as who like her in the general public; 5) every primary people say they won’t vote for the party if their person doesn’t get the nomination, but they fall into line, her support is among hard-core Democrats and they aren’t going over to the Republicans in large enough numbers to matter.

Other than that, she is a great choice.

The problem is, if the possibility of Hillary voters refusing to vote for Obama is such a worry, what makes you think that adding Hillary to the ticket won’t drive Obama voters away from Obama ? There’s an awful lot of hatred for Hillary, and a lot of it is from Obama supporters. When I hear people talk about how they think Hillary would murder Obama or how they’d vote for anyone other than Hillary, with or without Obama, that’s not the kind of attitude that makes Hillary a good VP choice.

I don’t think Obama is even going to offer (she might accept :eek: ). He’s a smart cookie, and people have almost 6 months to come out and vote for Obama, many will. I dare say a lot more people can stomach Obama, than can think about another 4 years of Bush[sup]2[/sup].

Mosier - There are many better candidates than she. Just because she was in the spotlight for 16 months as a prez candidate doesn’t make her the best choice for an Obama presidencial vp candidate. Sorry but no.

I seriously doubt the number of people who will vote for no one but her is higher than the number who will vote for anyone but her.

  1. The US has never had a black president
  2. The US has never had a woman president

Having a black AND a woman on the ballot seems like swimming upstream with a heavy weight around your waist.

That said, seeing how they couldn’t defeat the Republicans last time, the Dems have got to pull it together and not alienate a big contingency within their own ranks.

Damned if you do; damned if you don’t.

Which part makes her the best candidate? Being a junior senator or being married to a famous politician? Is it the running a presidential campaign into the ground?

GMA just had a republican strategist for McCain on and she was asked if Clinton would be the best choice. She was ambivalent to say she would be, but she said it anyway. I think the pubs have wanted Clinton on the ticket for a long while, as that would ensure another pubby victory in November. The woman was cool and calculated…I’m sure Obama knows this and is ready for their onslaught. Clinton won’t be chosen.

For me, its her proven ability to stay calm under relentless sniper fire. :wink:

I am sorry to repeat what I have posted in other threads but, what the Hell.

Asking Hilllary now that it has been demanded of him would be perceived by the electorate as a sign of weakness. How could we believe that he has the character to stand up to any other of the world’s petty dictators if he blinks when threatened by the Clintons?

Ceding significant concessions to the Clinton wing would hamstring him during his administration as it would signal their open season to make demands throughout his tenure lest they remove their support. All the more likely given the likely Obama Bonanza to be had in Congress: without the need to rally as much against “them” intrafamily squabbles are fair game.

She does not fit his narrative of change nor of reaching across the partisan divide. Her antics would only distract.

I can understand the desire to pick someone who can help with Ohio and/or Pennsylvania. I can see why a VP that reaches that way could help heal some wounds. But her being on the ticket would not help him.

Besides, you did catch what was said in his praise of her, didn’t you?

I don’t think that I read too much by hearing the message that he places her role to be leading the Senate fights to come, and that he will be generous with giving her credit for the victories.

I agree with the OP; madmonk28 and lobotomyboy63 are also both right. If he picked her I would almost question his sanity. One other reason it ain’t gonna happen: word has it that Michelle Obama loathes HRC. Obama trusts her and relies on her political counsel (without being p’whipped, I hasten to add), and I just can’t see him doing this. Far more likely he picks a safe, politically-helpful white guy from the Midwest or a Border State that Gore or Kerry narrowly lost.

More to the point, if she were his VP and the unthinkable happened, scandal and doubt would rack her presidency. It wouldn’t matter if he died from cancer or was killed by a foreign assassin: the “Clintons kill people” meme is out there, and their would be a huge scandal broth about she was behind it: we LOVE presidential assassination conspiracy theories in this country, and no matter how innocent she was, Clinton would come to the presidency on a wave of accusations, hearings, investigations, and doubt. NOT what we would need in what is a delicate political moment anyway.

And your reasoning for why a VP Hillary would prevent a President Obama from doing his job properly is what?

Clinton has been scathing in her attacks on Obama. I know, everyone says nasty stuff during that period but Clinton has straight out said that McCain would be better qualified than Obama. That’d be hard to reconcile when the GOP starts saying “Obama’s own vice-president thinks McCain is a better qualified candidate…”