People who knowingly support someone who is responsible for violence under the color of law really shouldn’t be lecturing the rest of us on challenging morally repugnant attitudes.
It hasn’t made “normal” conservatism look good to liberals, it’s made it look a “solid, good-faith, even honorable” alternative to Trump as you said. There is a BIG difference.
You said you grew up in the Netherlands. Did you live in NL as an adult and vote there? As you know, the Dutch parliamentary and party systems are very different from U.S. politics. The way the Dutch PM is selected is different from how U.S. presidents are. Again, I understand that you know this. But from reading your posts I get the impression that emotionally or sub-consciously you would choose a Presidential candidate here in much the same way a Dutch person would choose a Party and its Platform.
American presidents are not beholden to their party’s platform or even to the party itself, really. It’s all about the individual. Voters here in USA tend to keep that in mind.
Also no party is going to win a majority in the Tweede Kamer so Dutch governments are always coalitions. That alone is a big reason to use a different voting strategy when in the U.S.
Yes, I’m quite aware how the US system of electing presidents works. Presidents run on a platform, informed to greater or lesser extent by the platform of their party - but not necessarily dictated by them. I believe that voting for someone means agreement with at least a substantial part of their platform. And believing that they are both capable and worthy, to some extent, of leading this country. I understand that this is my very personal way of looking at this. I’m fine with others voting more strategically. But if there were a third party candidate that I agree with a lot, I would vote for them, even if that means taking a vote from the one of the two major party candidates that would be next closest to my view and efectively electing my least favorite candidate. Likewise, if I don’t find much of anything to agree with with either candidate, I won’t vote for either. That’s my way - you (collective you) do your way.
People darkly muttering about the consequences of immoral actions (defined as supporting the wrong candidate/party/position) , talking about how there will be a reckoning, about deciding on citizenship - I think those people should shut the fck up, and maybe get back to their homework or something.
drad dog: That’s not what **anomalous1 **wrote. I don’t believe you’re supposed to change the content and meaning of another poster’s quote like that. That’s bush league shit and the mods never call you on it. They should.
I didn’t change anything he wrote. And I don’t remember doing it a lot, only to make a cogent point. The last time it happened to me the poster added an emoji to my post. That’s not OK, not only because I don’t use emojis. Adding bolding, size, or colors I have seen before without incident. I’m OK with reporting it whatever the outcome. Anomalous has not been back after that. Was it offense or a good call on him?