Your brush is very broad. But point taken.
It’s the why, not the what.
This. Trying to protect someone from persecution by the corrupt isn’t the same as being the corrupt.
I oppose the Hunter pardon, but that could be a plus with it.
SCOTUS, I think, for reasons previously linked, will throw out the part of the Hunter pardon (bottom here) where Joe Biden excuses offenses, going back to 2014, that have not been yet charged. What happens if Trump tries exactly the same, recently ruled unconstitutional pardon maneuver, on his own children — or himself? It might be too embarrassing for even this Supreme Court to reverse a recent precedent for an obviously political reason. So Don Jr. had better keep on his best behavior for the next four years.
The Supreme Court doesn’t have the power to revoke a pardon.
Isn’t that what Ford did for Nixon?
Re last post: Yes, and the wording of this newest pardon, with a date range for covered offenses, has similarities.
Nixon was never indicted, so the constitutionality of a non-specific pardon never had to be determined. I’m thinking that a GOP SCOTUS would look for ways to defeat tonight’s pardon, but I admit to uncertainty. I’m sure the Nixon precedent would be brought up.
You’re thinking about this wrong. This SCOTUS, and Trump himself, love executive power. They will never limit the executive power to pardon in any way.
Hunter Biden doesn’t matter. He was only charged for political reasons. Trump will never give up his greatest “get out of jail free” card by challenging the validity of a pardon over Hunter f’in Biden.
Indeed. What was Hunter looking at, anyway - a year or two in Club Fed? It’s not like he was gonna get thrown into gen pop in Leavenworth.
I didn’t think about that factor. We’ll see.
What would be, for the moment, an interesting thought exercise is if, on the morning of January 20th, just before the inauguration, Biden gives himself a similar blanket pardon. How does Trump react, given that he’s publicly stated that he believes a president can pardon themselves?
I wouldn’t be “okay” with that, but I’d fully expect him to. Don Jr. won’t be the target of a politically motivated prosecution like Hunter was, since Trump loyalists will be in charge of such things, so if he does somehow actually end up in trouble, it will be because he really, really fucked up.
But Trump won’t care about that, he’ll do whatever he wants to do.
Some of us think that people who do serious tax evasion should do some prison time.
Was that before or after the MAGAs made it political?
And note- the wall is not built nor with mexican funds, the rustbelters didnt get their jobs back, trump didnt end Obamacare nor come up with something better, … I could go on and on and on.
One of the Top Positions, usually given to a professional. I mean, if it had been Belarus, where Kushners family is from, that could have made some sort of sense. Not to mention they like criminals there.
Yes, they can. It all depends on what trump jr is accused/convicted of- some white collar crime blown all out of proportion due to politics? Sure pardon. Murder? Nope.
He was only persecuted for political reasons- he did commit tax fraud. He was willing to plead out, pay the fines, get a suspended sentence etc. Joe would have been fine with that.
Originally? A fine and suspended sentence. After the MAGAs witch hunt- who knows? I suspect not less that 5 years hard time. Maybe 20.
It wasnt really tax evasion. It was failure to pay. And normally, for non political offenders, if you plead out, pay what you owe, and admit guilt- it is fines and suspended sentence. Never hard time.
Legal Eagle explained this. The first plea deal was fair and normal.
Yes, this is the main point. For people who actually care about Law&Order, the case was being dealt with in accordance with normal legal practices. Until the Republicans realized that “normal legal practices” wouldn’t let them use Hunter to beat on Joe, and declare the existence of a “Biden Crime Family”, all as part of their political strategy.
It was Republican partisanship that made this pardon necessary, nothing else.
And here it comes …
“PRESIDENT TRUMP RESPONDS TO HUNTER BIDEN BLANKET PARDON WITH POST SUGGESTING HE PLANS TO PARDON THE J6ERS USING THE SAME PRECEDENT BIDEN JUST DID FOR HIS SON”
Hmm I expected something like this.
I think everyone needs to forget the j6 case. Its almost sure every last one the j6ers will be pardoned.
Sounds like it’s a good god damned thing he pardoned him then.
Because it usually is, despite the protestations from right-wing posters that if you ignore the salient details they are exactly the same and therefore the left are hypocrites.
I’d rather Biden hadn’t pardoned him, but then I’d rather the GOP had just let the original plea deal go through rather than abusing their power for the purpose of hurting Joe Biden.
I’m just imagining the uproar if King Charles tried to pardon to a convicted Prince William without having been ‘advised’ to do so by his ministers (i.e. without the permission of the government)…