I think you need citations and FACTS to support your statement about what might or might not happen in the future. That’s the standard here, as expressed by many posters.
- I knew that your “I’m not sure…” was a disagreement. You should learn the facts and you would be sure.
- RK was a ‘race riot.’ Cut it how you will, even though it stemmed from a police brutality case. All white officers…All white jurors??? You must not have been watching the news or reading the papers.
- Don’t start being churlish about the ‘figure of speech’ thing. Using figures of speech, loose constructs, etc… are quite valid. And, no, I didn’t use them incorrectly. The dictionary.com quotes, had you read them, showed that I was close enough for a Message Board. You need to stop that behavior. This isn’t a doctoral dissertation, it is a message board. You are trying to throw up smoke and fog to cover your lapses, and making me into something that I’m not.
- I noted that Diallo, Bell *was *big news. How else could I have remembered them, which I said that I had. You are intentionally either misreading or ignoring what I write.
- Of course, I know that the SDMB was much smaller on the other topic. Again, you are being pedantic, and I suspect that you know it. With the number of buttinsky’s and self righteous Oracles that are on this board (myself included), there were plenty of the old timers around to cover more than 25 posts.
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Of course that won’t happen. They prefer to set fire to their own neighborhoods. Or any Asian neighborhoods within reach.
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Of course that won’t happen. They prefer to set fire to their own neighborhoods. Or any Asian neighborhoods within reach.
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You’re racist trash, you know that, right? Actually, worse than racist trash, you’re racist scum with a gooey, toffee-flavored Saraya center in the middle. WTF do you mean they prefer to set fire to their own neighborhoods? Who the fuck do you think you are? Do you really think that all blacks or even most of them are connected by some invisible Hive Mind? White men make up only U.S 35% population but constitute over 70% of sex crimes against white children. Damning indictment, wouldn’t you say? Should I take your lead and start making claims about white men being child molesters? Let’s make this easy for you: If Zimmerman is found not guilty, there will be no “race riots” much to your disappointment. I’m certain you’d love to see a bunch of black people “acting out” so that it’d fit in your narrative, just like assume you screamed in ecstasy (and likely ejaculated all over the keyboard) during Rachel’s testimony because it fit into your biased, racist narrative of how blacks express themselves. What you don’t know is that Rachel is still an immature child, and while West was running a victory lap against his (very likely) illiterate opponent, all he (and, by extension, you) did was come off as a bully.
- Honesty
Actually, I said earlier that race riots were very unlikely. We’ve moved beyond that. Well, some of us have, apparently not you.
However, when race riots have happened, they’ve usually resulted in destruction of the rioters own neighborhoods. Nothing about that observation implies a hive mind, nor is it racist.
You also apparently did not notice that my response was as tongue in cheek as what I was responding to.
I’m looking for a “Million Hoodies March” instead of a race riot. One millions people marching–wait–shuffling and shambling in their hoodies and their rear end hanging out their pants.
Don’t you think you do her a disservice by describing her this way? Nineteen means that she’s a young woman. Couldn’t she be a parent and in the work force by this age? (And hurray for her for staying in school.)
I don’t think she should be treated as a child and thinking of her in those terms puts her at a social disadvantage. I think the lawyers did a fair job of trying to treat her as an adult and it appeared that it was difficult.
It’s one of those excuses for behavior that will actually retard the development of the person to whom it’s applied. And it appears that Rachel was well aware of the advantages of presenting herself as younger than she is to avoid the consequences of her behavior. A person can get stuck in that maladaptive stance for life. Not a good place to be
Please note that that’s not a personal attack on you or her - just a casual observation on the ways we try to nurture disadvantaged people thinking we are doing them a favor when we are actually enabling dysfunctional behavior.
I watched a lot of her testimony for the first time yesterday. At one point I was nearly in tears. She has a lot of work to do and I hope she gets the help she needs. It’s the work a young woman needs to do, not a child.
Anyway, sorry for the hijack. This issue just seems so germane to how people handle life’s frustrations.
How often are jurors murdered after criminal cases? Even when organized crime is involved that’s pretty rare. This sounds more like the script from a Law & Order knockoff.
Who said it wasn’t?
You minimized how big they were as news stories and there was never a specific reason for that. You said the country never got its underwear in a bunch over those cases and suggested they didn’t play into racial tensions, and both those claims were ridiculous. The truth, I think, is that you just remember this case better than you remember those cases because they’re not recent, so this seems like a much bigger deal. It really isn’t. It’s similar to other cases where there was no rioting or murder afterward.
No matter how many people were on the board, the interests of the SDMB are not a relevant measurement of how big a news story is. Sorry. This is a small and self selected group of people that doesn’t represent the U.S. at large. There are also search issues to consider because of changes in software. I did find another Diallo thread from 2000 but I would be surprised if it wasn’t mentioned at all in 1999.
You didn’t scale back enough. This kind of insult-fueled diatribe belongs in the Pit, not IMHO. Express yourself without insulting other people or official warnings are in your future. Please pay heed.
Blacks, no–rioters, yes. Mobs act as one to a surprising degree. Most, if not all of us have urges that are only held back by social constraints. When a situation occurs that removes those social restraints, and the behavior of others around you suggests that formerly proscribed behavior is now OK, you, or I, or black people, or green people, would have a hard time resisting the urge to cast off the restraints of civilization.
It would indeed be racist to suggest that blacks are more prone to riot and are therefore closer to letting go of civilization’s restraints when provoked. But our recent memories of black rioters color that perception. Of course, the Rodney King riots greatly harmed the black community, as will the Trayvon Martin riots if and when they happen. Such incidents only reinforce the racists’ contention that blacks prefer to settle disputes with violence. (As do several unfortunate aspects of urban black culture, such as violent, misogynistic rap music lyrics.)
You’ll just keep twisting facts to fit your assertions, then? Another ‘anecdotal scientist/historian’, great. You’re going to fit right in here.
is it just me or is it comically racist in here
Threads about “race riots” do tend to bring them out.
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No, bishops usually issue imprimaturs. I knew that from my long-ago religious education, but did confirm it.
So, how’s your accuracy in other matters?
Actual Seminole County resident here (and I was at an early Trayvon demonstrations, too.)
No, there won’t be any rioting. It’s kind of goofy to think there would be; there were no riots about the fact that he wasn’t charged in the first place, just peaceful demonstrations. Some ugly rhetoric? Sure, but the NBPP doesn’t speak for more than a thousandth of black people.
People are acquitted on dubious grounds* for crimes against African-Americans every day, and generally there is no rioting. You might as well ask if there will be protests every time a large corporation gets a federal handout.
*I am agnostic on the issue of whether Zimmerman is guilty. I was all in favor of his indictment, but I’m content to see how the trial plays out.
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Good God, the nitpickery here. The poster clearly used “imprimatur” in the figurative sense. Jumping on him for being inaccurate re the LITERAL meaning of imprimatur (information which I’m sure he is sorry he tried to supply) is petty douchebaggery. I suppose that the next person who uses the term “government decree” will be sternly lashed with the correction that our government doesn’t issue “decrees.”
Sheesh!
I suppose it’s racist to point out that blacks were overwhelmingly the only participants in the two largest and most extensive riots of the last 50+ years in the US–certainly suggesting that the motives/grievances/protests of the rioters were, in fact, racially motivated. I hasten to add that a riot made up of only white people would probably be the same (and I’m also sure that some of the riots in the to-be-forcibly-segregated South in the 1950s and early 1960s fit the definition of “race riot” very well).
The Rodney King riots were racially motivated, in that the rioters were protesting a perceived injustice by whites against the black community. The Zimmerman riots, should they occur, will be motivated by the exact same feelings. So calling them “race riots” is/will be pretty accurate.
I believe that comparing the Rodney King case and this one is apples and oranges. In the former, the accused were police officers and as such represented the government and the part of the government that was the most closely associated with the people who rioted. That is to say, the people who rioted, interacted with the police on a regular basis and usually in an oppositional manner. In the latter case, the accused is a self-appointed neighborhood watchman and not a part of the government.
This should be kept in mind when analyzing past events that led to riots.
In fairness, I deserved that based on what he thought I was saying.