Will Trump kill himself on January 20?

That would be my fantasy! I can’t stand trump. He is going to try to cause a civil war with using his so called base and the traitor Flynn. They are planning to be at the Capitol on the 6th and they have suggested they will fight to their death and said they were bringing weapons with them and called for martial law…idiots.

Bushwhackers?

Hornswogglers?

Many people have compared Trump to Adolf Hitler and I think that the comparison is apt. In the end, Hitler blamed everyone around him for the Reich falling apart. He was convinced that he was surrounded by halfwits and traitors. The downfall was never due to his own shortcomings or mistakes; it was all the fault of the disloyal people around him. Of course, once the end was nigh, some around him were betraying Hitler in an attempt to save themselves.

We are seeing so much of this same thing happening today. Trump cannot acknowledge that he truly has lost or that it is the result of his own errors or shortcomings. He is expressing outrage at the “betrayal” of those who have supported him all along. He is lashing out, demanding actions that simply cannot happen.

Hitler likely figured that the end result of all his losses would be a date with the gallows. Even if Trump were found guilty of all manner of crimes, he is unlikely to be hanged. He surely knows this. But, I think Trump could decide he is too good for this world and send himself into the next to punish all who have disappointed him.

No, people like Hitler or Stalin or Mao or Putin were all active leaders (which doesn’t make them good people). They made things happen.

Trump is not like that. He wants to be able to sit back and have people hand him power.

I’m waiting for some WAG to do a YouTube adaptation of that famous bunker scene from Hitler: The Last Ten Days as Trump’s waning days in the White House. It’d be pure gold.

I’m not sure I fully agree with @Little_Nemo just above. Though he certainly does have a solid point worth honoring there.

Yes, Trump is a far more defective and incapable personality than e.g. Mao. OTOH, the measure of a leader, even a malign one, is not what they do, but rather what they induce others to do. Even if they do so indirectly.

Trump’s minions have not launched wars, nor subverted whole governments. But his followers have marched our country a long way towards ungovernability and authoritarianism. If Trump fell short, it was by inches, not miles.

The $64Billion question with Trump has always been how much his political career, all 6 years of it, is his doing, Russia’s doing, Koch’s doing, Murdoch’s doing, or a weird catalytic combo of all the above plus plain old profiteering on the part of the RW grift-the-rubes commercial establishment. Of which Limbaugh was the original archetype and later the elder statesman, but hardly relevant any more.

Here, in four chapters:

Chapter one:

Chapter two:

Chapter three

Chapter four

Oops.

I cited the wrong movie. The oft-reworked clip was from

never mind, I knew what you meant.

Oh, the Downfall parody has been done for Trump losing the election at least. Many times.

I now see that a YouTube search for [hitler rant trump] has a bunch of fun stuff to watch. Thanks to @Peter_Morris for a couple more.

[aside]
It’s not actually surprising, but is still pretty funny that my spell check objects to my not capitalizing “hitler” above but has no problems with my not capitalizing “trump”. Apparently Nemo was right that trump’s just not in Hitler’s league. Even Google thinks so! :wink:

Here’s the best one

Successfully committing suicide requires a degree of planning, follow-through, and intelligence that Trump doesn’t have. It’s like asking if a toddler would commit suicide. It just doesn’t happen.

His time horizon is about 5 minutes. If you somehow made sure he had a loaded gun on him at all times, or some hamberder-flavored cyanide pills, then maybe, maybe he’d made use of them after thinking that killing himself would really own the libs. But the thought would be fleeting and he’d latch onto some other form of self-aggrandizement as soon as it appeared.

One important detail, though… certainly Trump’s disappointed by Republicans who he thinks owed him allegiance, but nobody in his inner circle or cabinet (AFAIK) or his key enablers have actually betrayed him. I don’t think they will do that until the noose tightens enough, and I’m not sure Biden has the stomach for it.

That’s what’s missing here… the inner-circle betrayals.

Yes, but a lot of that system wasn’t about putting Trump in power. I’ve said before that Trump basically just hijacked a system the Republicans had set up to put Jeb Bush in power.

Trump, using nothing but his own resources and base, could never have been elected President. But a different Republican could easily have been elected in 2016.

So Trump is the tail not the dog. He’s essentially a figurehead in his own administration. McConnell and other Republican regulars are actually running things.

While Trump’s political career may be ending, those Republican regulars will still have jobs next month. Their political system may have failed Trump but it’s working fine for the rest of them.

This is why we’re now seeing Trump arguing with other Republicans. He’s discovering how irrelevant he is to the Republican party.

Wrong thread. See here. :smile:

My prediction: he will go postal.

He will hold a meeting with all senior Republicans, senators, congressmen and governors. He will scream at them for their betrayal, their cowardice, their incompetence. Then he will draw a weapon and start shooting.

Of course, they are all NRA members, and packing heat. They will return fire and take him down.

This is known as suicide by GOP.

Trump will be cheating at golf in Scotland on Jan 20.

:golf: :golfing_man:

The murk surrounding Donald Trump’s likely whereabouts on his last day as president has thickened considerably with news that an official plane he has used in the past is due to fly to Scotland the day before Joe Biden’s inauguration.

The report said that speculation over a possible inauguration day drama has been fuelled by sightings of US military surveillance aircraft circling Turnberry for a week in November, doing possible advance work.

“It is usually a sign Trump is going to be somewhere for an extended period,” the Post quoted an unnamed source as saying.

Superbly well said. In the halls of power he is indeed a figurehead of his own administration, and largely has been for 4 years except for brief interludes as a new toady shows up & adjusts a few things before being fired in turn.

Every sitting President is in some sense the titular leader of their party, but nonetheless the party apparatchiks, party chairman, party bureaucracy, Congressional delegation, etc., are still major forces within that party. Some presidents succeed in being the actual practical leader of their party, moving and shaking it more into their own their mold. Others get little more than lip service from the stolid static party.

Trump’s situation versus the party is a bit more complex. As to the apparatchiks, chairmen, and very senior congressmen, yes he’s an aberration, a noisy figurehead to be steered where possible and ignored when not.

But … Trump has thoroughly hijacked the rubes and a bunch of the first term congressmen and state-level officials and state-level electees. Not necessarily into service of Trump himself, but into service of a virulent and violent MAGA + White supremacist + know-nothing ideology.

Metaphorically speaking Nixon’s “Southern strategy” birthed a tiger cub, and ever since the R party has been riding the slowly growing tiger. Perhaps as you say it was/is maturing in its own good time, Trump or no.

I’d suggest that Trump shot the almost fully-grown tiger full of growth hormones, steroids, and cocaine and it’s now bucking wildly. And may in fact buck McConnell and the rest of the career “Establishment” R’s right off. To the degree Trump remains a force in the public mind the next 4 years we will all bear witness to two clearly identifiable factions dueling for control: The Republicans and the Trumplicans.

As well, the Trumplican movement can be transferred to any other enterprising demagogue. Probably not while Trump is alive & tweeting, but readily enough thereafter. Rest assured there are no shortage of such demagogues waiting in the wings. Each backed by some unholy alliance of various eminence grise, foreign governments, and malefactors of great wealth.

So whether Trump himself remains embroiled in the tempest he super-charged, the rest of us will be dealing with that tempest for years to come.

The history of other parties on other countries having existential fissures like this is instructive. I’m thinking Britain’s Tories and the Europhile / Eurosceptic battles of the last 30 years that finally culminated in a Brexit which has answered / is answering nothing.

The lesson is that this does not create a clear playing field for the opposition party (UK Labour or US Democrats) to dominate handily. The noisy battles within the splitting party charge up their adherents and leave that party substantially as electorally successful as ever, but far more erratic in its exercise of power while they hold it.

How the post-January R’s ride (or tranquilize) the Trumplican tiger will determine the future of our republic. Trump remains the “useful idiot” he always was. “Useful to whom?” is the $64B question.

It may also have something to do with the fact that, IM(and Dave Barry’s)HO, “trump” always sounded like the results of a bovine digestive disorder.

EXAMPLE: “Stand back Earl, that cow’s gonna trump!”