Windows 7 Question

I just recently installed Windows 7, and I’m using Firefox.

The problem I’m having is that every web page I view looks all stripped-down – most of the buttons are missing, though if I mouse over the words for what the button does will appear. Sometimes even search fields won’t show up. And a lot of the page elements are missing, padding, borders, etc.

I have updated flash player, direct x, firefox itself, my video card drivers, and whatever else I can think of, but it hasn’t helped.

Any ideas?

Java?

Do you have a couple of web sites you are experiencing problems where people can view to compare?

It sounds like either JavaScript isn’t enabled (and the site relies on it, as many sites do now), or your browser isn’t loading CSS.

Unless you’re having network connection problems in other applications, I doubt Windows 7 is the cause. (If you are having connection problems, though, that could also explain what you’re seeing-- the CSS doesn’t get rendered because the network connection to retrieve it failed.)

It’s also possible you happened to load the website when their server was having problems, and simply visiting tomorrow will fix it.

Well, here’s an example page. I need to warn you, this game has goofy music I despise (but I love the game) so turn your sound down or whatever.

Mr. Flacit’s Word Search

In the top right corner, below the banner ads but just above the game itself, is a row of buttons I know are there, but they are completely invisible to me. They say “Lights”, “Launch Popup”, “Stretch Game,” etc.

If I mouseover that area, the button captions appear one by one. (and they are functional.) But I see nothing otherwise.

I am having no connection problems, and javascript is enabled in the browser. I just downloaded the newest Java RE.

However, it didn’t occur to me that it might not be cumulative – do I need to uninstall the one I have and start from earlier versions?

Oh Newgrounds! Almost certainly their server’s broken. This is why we need to know what site you’re talking about, haha! Newgrounds is always broken.

Try holding Control while you hit F5 to refresh and see if that fixes it.

I’d actually highly, highly recommend removing Java entirely unless there’s some particular site or program you use that requires it and you can’t live without.

Wow, Blakeyrat, that was fast! I tried the control-F5 thing (ooh, fancy, and here all this time I’ve been using the “reload” button in my browser or the context menu lol) but nothing changed.

I feel ya about newgrounds, but I assure you, it’s not just this page.

And I know you’re right about the java; but for interest’s sake, could it be that the latest runtime environment I downloaded is not a standalone, or was the wrong one for my purposes?

Pretty sure those buttons are just regular HTML/javascript elements. Java should have nothing to do with it.

Is there any way you can post a few screenshots of sites that look busted to you?

Also, what happens if you try a different browser? e.g., ie/chrome?

Okay, here’s a page in my hotmail account and the photobucket login page, where I went to post the screenshots.

Note the skeletal look of everything, and the notable absence of colored fills and stuff.

Let me know if it isn’t apparent what I mean.
P.S. CHROME?!:eek: Afraid it’s against my religion. I will commit a lesser sin and try IE, in the interest of science. I’ll let you know.

Crap. I uninstalled IE. I hate it. Maybe I’ll go get Sea Monkey or something.

I just upgraded to Win7 myself and I do see those buttons in Firefox (18.something). Did you try installing it (FF) again?

Went and did that just now, just in case. (reinstalled firefox.) No change. But it was worth a try.

What do you mean you uninstalled IE? Did you at least try it? Whether or not this happens for all your browsers is a critical piece of information.

Also, why the chrome hate? It’s probably the best of the bunch. You can always just see if it works then uninstall it if you really hate it that much.

No, I mean I had already uninstalled it, when I went looking for it. You are absolutely right that it is critical to know if it happens with other browsers. I’ll install another one & let you know.

Did you transfer your Firefox “profile” from the previous version of Firefox in your old version of Windows? If so, try a clean install of Firefox without transferring the profile and try visiting numerous sites to see if it performs any differently.

The Firefox profile contains all your bookmarks, which is the primary reason most people copy it to a new version. But it also includes your add-ons, plugins, customized settings and any personalization from the old version of Firefox.

It’s worth a shot…and you can extract just your bookmarks from the profile if necessary.

I was able to recreate your issue identically by disabling all “background” CSS in the page. Do you have an ad blocker? If so, disable it and try again. It could be blocking the background images that are referenced in the CSS.

Yeah you are definitely blocking background images for some reason. I second everything geneb said.

You may have messed something up by uninstalling IE. There’s no reason for that.

Ok now that I’ve seen images, I’m back to thinking it’s a CSS problem. Your computer is either not retrieving, or not rendering, the CSS files.

Do you have an ad blocker installed? Try removing it temporarily to see if the problem clears up.

BTW: the difference between F5 and control-F5 is that control-F5 tells the browser to ignore everything in your computer’s cache and reload the entire site from the server again. This works because sometimes your computer will cache out-dated or incomplete files (especially JavaScript files) when the rest of the site is expecting to have the newest version. Using control-F5 ensures your computer is using all the files expects it to be using.

I would first go back and install everything again. Then get revo-uninstaller (the free version) and use that to uninstall everything completely.

Then install everything again.

An ad blocker or an option to block images may be checked. I get something similar when I block images.

You should be able to restore IE as follows-

In CONTROL PANEL, click on Programs and Features
In the Window that opens, click on Turn Windows Features On or Off to the left side
You should see Internet Explorer 8 with a check box among the choices available
Check the box to reinstall IE8

Or, if you just want to download an alternate browser for testing purposes, I suggest Opera (and it’s not Chrome)!