I think deep down we all know what Linus’ real issue is: girls won’t have sex with him. Ergo, there must be some deep failing within society.
And I think deep down we all know that feminists are just fat, ugly and hairy and probably lesbians too. So they blame the patriarchy because they can’t get laid.
In his defense, I believe LinusK is a married man with at least one child. A stay at home dad at that even.
For my own amusement I find it fun to speculate as to the dynamic of his relationship with his wife, his mother, his mother and father (when he was growing up), etc, that would cause him to become an MRA. I’m imagining a household right out of the sitcom “King of Queens”, where LinusK’s wife is the ball busting character played by Leah Remini to his lovable dolt played by Kevin James.
… how the hell can a stay at home dad of all people be anti-feminist?
He stated the following earlier in this thread:
But given his propensity for tortured logic, perhaps it doesn’t mean what I think it means. <shrug>
Seems the thread has deteriorated into ad hominem.
You make it sound like this thread was once a font of productive discourse.
Did we ever get a stated purpose for the thread? I asked twice, but didn’t get a reply. So really, we got 4 pages out of a check-out-this-link type post and a re-hash of earlier threads.
This is simply the latest installment of the long running LinusK v. feminism thread. Think of it as performance art.
Most feminists believe, or pretend to believe, that domestic violence is a crime usually or virtually always committed by men against women. (Ex.: the Violence Against Women Act.) Feminists that acknowledge that women are approximately as likely to commit intimate partner violence as men are few and far between.
Why are men disproportionately likely to be imprisoned?
Again: predictable. You are, as usual, attacking me rather than addressing the subject. Attacking a person is not a substitute for an actual debate. But I’ve told you that before, and I don’t suspect it’ll sink in this time any more than it has before.
Also, as a side note, everything you said was wrong.
Are these assertions based in any demonstrable fact? Or are they simply your (admittedly and demonstrably) biased opinions about what feminists think and believe?
IIRC he’s found some statistics that suggest that women may hit or otherwise put hands on their male partners nearly as often as men do, but he totally ignores the fact that hospitalizations due to injury and deaths due to domestic violence are overwhelmingly caused by men.
Easy explanation. Broads hit like a girl.
Plenty of people have “found” those numbers; they’ve been controversial for about 30 years. Which is to say that this information is coming straight from the same men’s rights wellspring from which all the rest is being drawn. Some studies do, for what it’s worth, suggest that there is a rough symmetry between the numbers of women in relationships who hit men and the numbers of men who hit women.
What they neglect, in addition to the severity of the violence, which you already pointed out, is that by and large, “hitting” isn’t really what we’re primarily concerned with when we talk about domestic violence. Many many victims of domestic violence are terrorized for years without what most people would consider a domestic battery - the fear and control and intimidation tactics used by batterers are much more effective than a slap to the face in terms of maintaining a battering relationship. It could very well be the case that in a particular incident, the victim “hit” first. That doesn’t mean the victim was battering the batterer, who may have just flung dinner into the wall, went on a 20 minute tirade about what a shitty person the victim was, kicked the dog, and then threatened to rape the victim.
There’s a great debate here, between Wendy McElroy and Jessica Valenti. McElroy addresses the topic of “rape culture” with a combination of passion and logic that’s masterful.
Jessica Valenti… well not so much. She starts off by saying she’s “exhausted” of talking about “rape culture” because it’s existence is “not up for debate.” She then goes on to tell the “amazing” story of a woman named… Emma Sulkowitz.
Valenti’s had her part of the debate removed a couple of times, but you can currently find it here. (Scroll to about 20 minutes.)
iiandyiiii, Jimmy Chitwood, I know the statistics on IPV, well, intimately. I’ve worked closely with those numbers, and with both victims and perpetrators of IPV. Men as well as women on both sides.
I’m not asking LinusK to justify those assertions, although I absolutely agree that they are incomplete and without context at best.
No, I’m asking LinusK to respond to the framing clauses. See, he says:
Emphases mine.
I want to know, LinusK, if you have any evidence to support your assertions that this is what “most feminists” believe.
I mean, I’d hate for you to be attacking a strawman. Or, indeed, a strawwoman.
What say, LinusK? Got some data?
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Okay, LinusK. You owe me 30 minutes of my life for (foolishly) watching your linked videos. But before you pay up, you need to address andros’s (among others) questions using evidence that’s more than some randomly sourced anecdotal videos.
There is so, so much here to dig into. Let’s start with a lesser known area. Could you shed some light on the relationship between female fear of bugs and the lack of a patriarchy? I think that’s what you were arguing. I would be particularly interested in any data you have that supports this.
No, I know. I wish you godspeed with that one.