Women Against Feminism

To what extent is that a consequence of the heavy social stigma against male domestic violence victims? There are plenty of men who would much rather suffer in silence than go to a hospital and say “My wife beat me up”. That doesn’t mean they’re not suffering.

You’re begging the question. If you’re going to just assert that “there are plenty,” there’s no need to talk about the statistics at all, is there?

To make things easy, here’s a list of open questions. I am including post numbers so that I do not inaccurately summarize.

Post 197 Andros would like to get more data on the beliefs of “most feminists” and domestic violence.

Post 199 ddsun would like to understand the relationship between feminists, bugs, and the patriarchy.

Feel free to add items to the list if I have missed them.

LinusK looking forward to your responses.

I’ve found a cite called the Feminist Majority Foundation (slogan: “Equality Around The World”) that states the following:

[ul]
[li] Of those victimized by an intimate partner, 85% are women and 15% are men. In other words, women are 5 to 8 times more likely than men to be victimized by an intimate partner.[/li]
[li] Although many studies report that men and women use physical violence at equal rates within intimate relationships, this fails to take into account the nature of the violence and the level of fear and injury experienced by each party.[/li][/ul]

These two statements are, obviously, rather contradictory. On the one hand, they say women are victimised nearly six times as often as men, and then on the other they note that “many studies” show that men and women use violence according to roughly equal rates. I don’t much care to unpick this contradiction, but I will note that the first claim is based on Justice Department statistics, which obviously don’t account for the enormous social pressure on male domestic abuse victims not to report their victimisation.

Regardless, the Feminist Majority Foundation brushes this aside by downplaying the fear that male abuse victims suffer (they refer to it as a “myth”). Besides, LinusK never said anything about fear anyway. He was just commenting on the raw numbers of female and male domestic abuse victims.

Are you seriously denying that there is a social stigma against male domestic abuse victims? Are you seriously making that claim?

No. Does that help?

meh. don’t be such a dour fellow you can’t take a joke. Besides the feminists are the bugs which the heroric patriarchs crush under their steel boots.

I’d like to think I’m not a fellow at all. :wink: I’ll give you the occasional “dour”.

I’d stop bringing up the bugs if the OP would. Since he doesn’t, I’d like a more detailed explanation. They clearly fit into his anti-feminism worldview on the same level as child custody or gender suicide differences. Can he explain that?

There is no “actual debate” in any of your threads, because you do nothing but regurgitate other people’s content. You aren’t here to debate, and I’ve seen no evidence that you even understand what a debate is.

Everything I said was right. I’d be tempted to say that this is why you couldn’t respond to it directly, but of course you can’t respond to anything directly. All you can do is parrot things you’ve seen and heard elsewhere.

LinusK, why do you refuse to answer direct questions?

~Orwell

Kudos.

I am not sure if your quote supports the anti-feminists or merely represents your understanding of the OP.

Either way, I almost snorted milk. Masterful use of Orwell in a non-literary setting.

If I was to guess, Mollie represents one of these “anti-feminists,” who are rejecting the naive idealism of this third-wave feminist nonsense for the comfort of a man who comes home to a freshly-cooked dinner and a kiss on the cheek.

Or a fawning male feminist desperate for the sweet milk of female attention, perhaps?

Actually men and women who challenge male bashing stereotypes on Social Media such as Twitter and YouTube face much more abuse – they are libeled, and threatened by many.

Yet by dismantling male bashing stereotypes they are helping disadvantaged men in many ways.

Ah. You’re referring to the other thread I posted, back in July. I don’t think the issues I brought up in that thread were addressed, much less the ones I posted above.

Mostly they were met with comments like this one:

And this one:

And this one:

In other words, the same kind of shit that feminists post in this thread. At first I made the mistake of pointing out that they’re explicitly violating the rules. But that didn’t stop them. Eventually the thread was closed because I didn’t report them.

There were tons of responses that attempted to engage on the issues (as there are in this thread too), and these you mostly ignored. For some reason you chose and continue to choose to mostly engage with the personal insults, while mostly ignoring the substantive challenges and criticisms.

Every time I see this thread title, I think of the group Ladies Against Women, a satirical bunch who have been around since the pre-internet days:

a bit more:

http://beautifultrouble.org/practitioner/ladies-against-women/

The topic is “Women Against Feminism”.

As for the purpose… I’m sure that’s up to you to decide. The question is, why should it exist?

Feminists have said it’s because they’re young, naive, foolish or ignorant.

Pretty much what I would expect, since they don’t seem to be able (or willing) to think beyond ad hominem attacks.

Interestingly, the angry, personalized hostility of feminism is exactly what turns women against feminism.

Link.