Lamia
October 9, 2015, 12:29am
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Since we can’t call people liars in GD, I wanted to point out here that LinusK has taken to blatantly lying about why his last pro-misogyny thread was closed:
Now, this obviously makes no sense. Threads aren’t closed because the OP fails to report rule violations. For those of you who were wise enough to skip that thread , here’s what Jonathan Chance had to say at the time:
LinusK:
Just so I understand: you’re saying if I start a thread, and a bunch of people respond with personal attacks (or “snark”, to use your word) you’ll reward them by closing the tread, and punish me for their bad behavior?
[QUOTE=Jonathan Chance]
Frankly, many people - including you - have not behaved with great distinction in this thread. You got 25 pages out of it. You get no more.
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And from the ATMB thread LinusK started to protest the closure:
That thread you started had gone on 25 pages and was accomplishing little new or noteworthy. I’d had reports from both side accusing the other of insulting. It wasn’t pretty. I intervened earlier with a note on 8/16 in an attempt to get people to refrain from the snide comments and such and to get back to debating. Following that mod note in post #1283 you obliquely accused other posters of lying following yourself being accused of lying - sort of - earlier in the thread. Following that post in post #1284 - four minutes later - you challenge the validity of the mod note.
It’s at that point I decided the thread would no longer accomplish anything and shut it down.
The thing is, I don’t think anything further would have helped. You’re free to start a new thread on the subject if you wish. No one will stop you unless it spirals out of control again (though I doubt it’d be allowed to go that long again). But you can’t go into a thread with a sense of ownership and expect to take a position and people will not challenge your position and expect you to respond. That what you sort of did - or did not do, depending on one’s point of view - in your thread.
The SDMB - and GD in particular - is about the sharing and discussion of ideas. Just because people push back against you doesn’t mean there’s a conspiracy. It may just mean you need to be firm in your positions to win them over - if that’s possible - or it may mean you’re demonstrably wrong. I take no particular position on your topic of anti-feminism. I’d prefer just to have people move forward and debate and discuss within the rules.
Much as I hate to contradict you in public, Jonathan , looking at the Reported Posts and PMs forum, I see seventeen reports that were generated by that thread. Of them, only two are from posters who were vocal in their support of the OP, and only one of them is for an insult - the other was the poster reporting his own post for help with cleaning up some tags. (In full disclosure, the other report was about one of my posts.) The other fifteen reports were all against the OP, or people arguing his side of the issue.