Women and hunting.

Zombie apocalypse. Either she needs food because civilization has collapsed or, you know, the deer are infected and after brains.

I’m curious to know if the OP finds female hunters unattractive, or only women posing for pictures with dead deer? Cause I don’t think anyone hunts with the idea that it’ll make them attractive. Not sure about the pictures. I assume it’s mostly a “look, I’m participating in the local culture” kind of thing. Maybe a bit of competition with other hunters. Still not done to be attractive.

I’m guessing that the OP finds the guys in the deer photos equally unattractive, but in their case he doesn’t feel that he’s lost anything because looking at them wasn’t going to do anything for him anyway. With the women, it feels like a lost opportunity. Sort of “I could have enjoyed looking at her if it wasn’t for that dead deer. Poot!”

It’s the “camo or blaze orange country girl” look in general that doesn’t do anything in general for me in general, I guess. The dead deer doesn’t add much to the look.

I like the women with guns/dead deer look. It may be because where I am from, it was mainly the hottest women that hunted. I am not kidding. It may have something to do with confidence or physical fitness but it was a real thing. I see on my Facebook feed that the same holds true there today with the younger crop. Some of them are so hot that they could be standing over the body of a dead person and I doubt I would notice much.

Everyone has their own type and that’s cool. I guess it all comes down to that. My type of woman is strongly not a country type, so it would obviously conclude that I am not attracted to a “huntin’” type of woman by a long shot.

My stepdaughter and my baby sister both hunt. My sister, in particular, is the Rhymer you want to live next to when the zombie apocalypse strikes.

Neither of my daughters took to hunting, although the younger one is as close to a natural shooter as I have ever seen.

Even the Greeks knew that huntresses are hot, and they didn’t even have coffee.

I live in an area with a rich hunting culture. Our little school football team won the state championship a few years ago and the announcer pointed out that you could tell the spectators from my little town from the rest of the crowd, they would be the ones wearing Cabelas camo. Miles and miles of forest surround me.

I think that this thread is very sexist in a negative way. Why shouldn’t women like to hunt? Is it an icky man thing? Are women too weak? Or do they perhaps like to do outdoor things like guys do, with the guys they love.

Hunting is more than shooting something and posing with a gutted, dead animal. It involves a lot of work, planning, stalking, failure, and maybe an animal at the end. The meat from the last deer I shot probably cost me about $50 per pound after all the pre-hunt scouting trips, gas, days off work, etc. Just being outside, in the mountains, in the early morning is worth all the money spent, even if I never shoot a thing. Because it is not about the kill. But after the hard work, sure, people pose with the animal they have taken.

A friend of mine got married a few years ago and they went on a ‘huntymoon’ to New Zealand where they shot a number of animals, brought a ton of the best meat home, and gave the rest to local uses. They had planned on this for years. Spent a lot of money in the local economy. He is an avid hunter and she decided to take up his interests too. Because, I don’t know, she loves him and loves the great outdoors.

If you live in a more urban area this probably cannot be explained to you. But the very idea that women are some fragile flowers who should be left at home and refrain from hunting is a very sexist position.

How did they get the meat back to the States? I thought USDA would have a fit if you tried to import meat?

Do you eat meat? Because I’m fairly sure neither cattle, swine, nor poultry volunteer to be butchered.

Maybe the recoil of the gun would be enough to push me back onto the ledge. That’s how guns work, right? :wink:

Nope. I respect any person that can kill their own food regardless of gender.

I’d argue that wild game is probably healthier for you as well, as opposed to factory produce meat. Wild animals also live much better lives.

They spend their whole lives frolicking, prancing through the woods, nibbling living completely free. Then BLAM!!! shot in the face.

Hunting is an outdoorsy activity. It’s not impossible to look cute when you’re roughing it, but it’s not easy.

Also, it’s a masculine activity. Women who are into masculine activities aren’t necessarily interested in looking cute 24/7, especially while they’re partaking in those activities.

It may be that the OP is attracted to “cute” women, and that’s why women hunters don’t strike his fancy. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t attractive.

That is a false dichotomy though. I know a lot of women hunters and they are also quite feminine and cute in every other way. They also have the more typical female interests. As a matter of fact, the most beautiful and super-popular cheerleaders in high school were the most avid hunters. I am not sure why that is except that they had no reason to lack confidence in their looks and femininity so that just did whatever they wanted. They also had plenty of guys willing to have them along for whatever they wanted to do so the opportunity was wide open. I haven’t known any fat, ugly or generally insecure women that were into hunting or fishing unless they were true hillbilly types. The same thing is true with shooting and outdoor sports in general.

In any case, it isn’t a universal turn-off or generally considered unattractive. See Ellie May from the Beverley Hillbillies for a pop culture sex symbol reference. I don’t know if they ever showed Daisy Duke ever hunting but I am sure she would have as well.

You don’t have to be a hunter to be a meat eater. You can be a meat eater and opposed to hunting.

Well… it is an accomplishment of sorts…

There is no disputing tastes in fashion.

Nope.

But then, I’m a woman who likes venison, fresh caught fish, and so on. The main reason I don’t hunt myself is because field dressing and hauling the carcass of an animal that weighs nearly as much as I do out of the woods on my own is really frickin’ hard for a middle aged woman. Well, I suppose I could hunt smaller game, but really, there is an abundance of flesh for sale at my local grocer and butcher and it’s a lot less effort to obtain.

Yes, I think it’s sexist. In the old days the difference in brute strength between men and women and the necessities of child care in a nomadic tribe made the division of labor that assigns hunting to men much more logical. With baby-sitters and modern weaponry these aren’t really problems any more.

On the other hand, there are lot worse forms of sexism. And I’m presuming that even if you knew a woman hunted you’d still speak to her, work alongside her, treat her with respect, and so forth.

What would you recommend the animals do in their 360 days of prep time? Hide? Run? Build traps? Learn to shoot? Develop an armored exoskeleton? And what resources are you referring to? Is this like Jim Kirk building a diamond mortar to shoot the Gorn? That would be awesome! Just not for the hunters…

This fairness argument is complete bulshit especially it comes to deer. There are more deer in North America today than there have ever been and it is because they are a species that thrives at the fringes of human development. They are also quite dangerous. “Deer–vehicle collisions lead to about 200 human deaths and $1.1 billion in property damage every year.” That does not include farming and other property losses that they cause.

I had one jump out in front of me a few years ago with my infant daughter in the car and it was terrifying because we barely missed. Have you ever seen a car that hit a deer? They can completely destroy a full-sized SUV through complete stupidity. Those dumb shits will commit suicide and involuntary homicide in one split second decision there is little you can do to prevent it when it happens to you.

The herd has to be culled every year for both the safety of the public and the health of the deer population as a whole. Deer hunters not only pay to do that service but they also fund conservation efforts for threatened species and wildlife in general. If hunters didn’t volunteer to donate their services, we would still need to cull the herd. Do you have any better ideas on how to do that other than just sneering when you think the realities of life are made too explicit?

You should be thanking any lawful hunter that is providing those services at their own expense. I never liked hunting myself because it combines the three things I hate most in the world: waking up early, getting cold, and sitting dead still for extended periods of time. However, I admire people that are willing and eager to commit to an essential activity and get some joy and real use from it.

Bravo, Shagnasty. Well stated.

Since you seem to feel you have a point to make here, perhaps you can answer my question? What resources do you feel the deer have that they could bring to bear in this situation?

And this way, they meet a much more humane end than they would if they were killed and eaten by other animals.