One extra note: apparently J. J. Abrams wrote the screenplay for armageddon…
Doesn’t raise my hopes much
[trekker geek]
Actually, I think the only backstory I had said that there was another captain of the Enterprise before Pike… (based loosely on one of Gene’s earliest ideas for the series, before he wrote ‘the cage’ pilot.) Which means that NCC-1701 was something of an old workhorse by the time Kirk took command, having been on probably three five-year missions already.
That doesn’t necessarily mean that Kirk and Spock couldn’t have met at the Academy and been on an early space mission together. At this time Pike might be captaining another ship, or working as bridge crew on Enterprise, working his way up.
Later missions split Kirk/Spock up. Kirk goes for a battle tour on the Klingon front maybe. Spock gets assigned as science officer to the Enterprise under Pike, a prestigious post. Pike gets wounded or promoted up, and Kirk assumes command of Enterprise. Nothing terribly inconsistent there that I’d see.
[/trekker geek]
At this point, a nessicary prequisite for me to see a new movie would be for Berman and Braga to be fired…or killed in some horrible zepplin accident(I’m fine with either). Then I’ll consider it.
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I’m picturing running phaser battles outside cinemas in a couple of years, as the various factions settle their differences.QUOTE]
Did you ever see that old episode of “Night Court”, in which two opposing Fan factions were brought in for disturbing the peace? It was TOS vs TNG. Absolutely hilarious.
Star Trekin’ across the universe
always going forward 'cause we cannot find reverse!
I’ve suggested such a scenario before. A “Dark Ages” Trek. Basically, the Federation is so big and powerful that it’s almost impossible to come with a threat that couldn’t be solved quickly and asily. The only way to go forward is to break the Federation, make them a non-power that does not have access to almost unlimited resources.
Hmm. Okay.
16 years, actually. According to Uncle John’s Supremely Satisfying Bathroom Reader , page 176, Harve Bennett came up with this idea in 1990, but the project was sabotaged by Gene Roddenberry when he allegedly spread rumors that it was going to resemble the Police Academy movies. The full story is in Chris Gore’s The 50 Greatest Movies Never Made .
[geek]That would be Robert April - but it’s not entirely canon.[/geek]
At any rate, it looks like, if they’re going to preserve consistency, the story shouldn’t take place on the Enterprise, at least not with Kirk as the captain of same.
You gotta wonder who they’ll cast as the young J.T. Kirk. The Vulcan schtick is pretty easy to recycle endlessly, but Shatner was…an inimitable character. Playing it straight will be a major challenge. Hell, Shatner can’t play it straight without the whole thing descending into unintended comedy.
I like it, but I think it ought to be three movies, not one. The first one opens when Spock, on a mission for a secret order of Vulcan warriors, encounters the slave-child Kirk, unacountably the best speeder pilot on the planet despite his age…
As awesome as that movie sounds, I would only watch it if Uwe Boll were to direct it.
It’s Kobayashi Maru.
Just remake The Forbidden Planet as a pre Federation Trek movie. Don’t include any existing characters or fan-fic references to them. Something along the line of Enterprise uniforms and tech.
Oh, and keep the “what’s a bathing suit?” line of Anne Francis. 
No, can’t say I did. Was Night Court the sitcom with the little woman with the voice like a cement mixer?
I bow to m’learned friend’s superior research – any research, in fact. 16 years, though – fancy that. Doesn’t time fly when you’re… well, waiting for Doctor Who to come back, in my case (just to make it clear I’m in no position to look down my nose at Trekkers).
On that subject though: I can’t help feeling that Star Trek is pretty much played out at present, just as Doctor Who was in the 80s. I think everyone would be better served by giving the franchise a longer rest, and coming back in a few years with something a bit fresher and more original. Not necessarily 15 years, mark you, but more than two or three. Y’know… just to let the dust settle a bit.
But there – if Paramount are hell-bent on re-energizing their pipeline, I suppose they have to grab any tentpole that’s handy.
The Fark thread on this had links to other sources that said this is all just talk, and nothing’s likely to actually happen.
Man, Bermaga really messed you cats up. J.J. Abrams? Awesome. Damon Lindolf? Great. No mention of Berman or Braga? Fan-fucking-tastic. Adventures of Young Kirk? Well, what are you gonna do? I think most of the signs point to the potential for a great movie, and it’s kind of depressing that every Trek fan assumes the worst for no discernable reason just because they’ve been hurt before.
–Cliffy
Ray Liotta or Jared Leto as Christopher Pike.
The Entreprise that was supposed to pre-date the Constitution Class vessel (NCC-1701 - no bloody A, B, C or D) was originally a Passenger ship, and it was captained by a Robert April…The “Enterprise NX-01” however, threw much of that canon out the window.
This from the the Ship Reference Guide published in apx 1979 and fairly hard to get.
When I get home, i can provide more details if desired.
I still wish I could find the link that said this movie was to be about the Romulan Earth wars… which is well before the time of Kirk (30ish at the time of his first romulan encounter, Spock was in his 70-90s at that time)…
Nothing outside the movies and the live-action television series is considered canon, right? Novels, reference books, cartoon series, comic books, etc.