World of Warcraft General Discussion

Honestly, I don’t trust Auctioneer’s evaluation. All it takes is some schmuck selling a couple stacks of a 10s item at 5000g to throw off the average. I usually find going rates to be much lower at the AH than Auctioneer says.

Auctioneer’s “Market Price” is based on what the item is being listed for when you scan the AH. No telling if it sold at that price (and a stack of Small Banacled Clams is not going to sell for 52g). It’s likely the one time you searched and it founded SBC in the list they were so high priced it’s thrown off the average. The “moving price” will give you a better idea of what they’re being listed for right now - but if the only one on the AH when you looked (and since most people open the clams then AH the insides, and not AH the whole clam it’s likely there aren’t many stacks up at any given time) was overpriced, that will throw off the moving price, too.

Ooooo Jackpot! Discovered somebody on the AH selling a crapload of Red Winter Clothes for 4g 98s a pop, so I logged in my main and bought a suit for each of my toons on Lightbringer :smiley:

Hmm. I guess it does pay to buy things “out of season” :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m right here at 'em, but all I’ve been doing is killing Crushridge Ogres and Brutes, and trying to throw nickels at their butt-cracks.

I’m at 86% of my next level and need to get to the Warmongers, but cannot find a way to get in!

Also thanks to avruvqan and my pal Amberale for the party tonight! it was awesome watching the 2 of you work!

We did the Scarlet Monestary!

Thanks

Quasi

There’s a gate in (I think) the southeast side of the walls.

I’ll go look for it, thanks, ** jay**!

Q

Is that okay to do that?

I’d like to say to them “Invite Me” (like y’all do for me) and then just go in and help 'em kill them little kobolds in the Northshire Cathedral, and help 'em level up.

I know I had a lot of help levelling Wolkie, and maybe this would be a way to pay it forward, or is that wrong, and I should let 'em do that themselves and maybe jump in when they get to 5?

Q

Not really a good idea. I know your intentions are good, but two problems. One, grouping with a high level hurts their XP. Sure, you could slaughter kobolds by the dozens, but your teammate isn’t going to get a lot for it. They would probably get more XP solo.

Two, the low levels are primarily used to help get a feel for one’s character. Veteran players don’t need this as much, but newer players do, and if you speed them through their missions they’re not going to learn their class as well (although in the first few levels, it doesn’t matter that much).

If you want to pay it forward to lowbies, I suggest hanging around in Elwynn and waiting to see if anyone asks for help on General. Usually you’ll see people ask for help with Hogger or another boss fight, and that’s when you can be useful, by helping them kill an enemy easily that they wouldn’t be able to kill alone.

In general, most lowbies can take care of themselves. If someone asks for help, then totally feel free to help, but don’t push yourself on them.

I would wait, but that’s just me. Truthfully, getting to lvl 10 is easy as hell. I’m more or less constantly amazed at Elwynn general chat with people begging for help with quests. The only quest in Elwynn Forest that someone should even remotely need help with are Hogger and the Collector/warlock voidwalker quests (Hogger because he’s an elite and the Collector/voidwalker because there are always three of them in that cottage in the pumpkin patch). I appreciate that you found help leveling the low levels useful, Quasi, but that’s because you have an extra challenge to overcome. The vast majority of people asking for help with low-level quests don’t really need it…they just haven’t gotten over the idea that you WILL die, multiple times, in this game, and that it’s not permanent.

Thanks, you two! :slight_smile:

I needed that guidance, and I wouldn’t have offered the help as if I were “King Shit of Turd Mountain”, but the way y’all have given it to me.:): As nice as can be.

I see both your points, and if someone asks, and I feel I can help, I’ll do that, and try not to interfere.

I just don’t know when to rush in and help defeat some enemy and then step back because I don’t want them to think I am trying to steal their loot.

Thanks

Q

You know that you can get a listing of /macros in game?

I personally will look stuff up on allakhazam.com, I know that somewhere in the forums there is a whole list of slash commands that have been collected.

You do know that if you train as a level 5 in Goldshire [or any other just above first log in town] and fish in each zone as you level you will progress appropriately?

Although if you didn’t realize it, you can fish from level 1 through 350 in Stormwind, Ironforge, Darnassus, Ogrimmar and Undercity … though as you get higher, it takes more fish per level of skill to advance. At about 300 it can take 8-10 fish to ding another skillpoint.

If you look at all the tradeskills, if you practice your skills as you level from the beginning, as you move zones you upgrade what you can do … so I always made it a practice to get my skills as soon as I could get to the trainer and worked on them as I progressed on my quests.

Which makes DK suck ass … you are born into the world as a level 55. … but if you want to faction and skill up you have to start at 0 just like a level 1 … so you have to run around in goldshire killing the damned guys in the mines for their candles and gold dust and whatnot … and pick peacebloom until your fingers bleed :dubious:

A number of us who were doing the beta tests for Blizz kept asking that instead of starting a new DK, they turned your original main character into the DK. You ‘died’ and kept your tradeskills and faction, and just started at 55 as a DK. It would have meant sacrificing your main character, but I think it would have been a great idea.

Well, if you see that the mob is greyed out [indicating that the other person ‘has’ the mob] and they are getting very low in health, plinking the mob to save their life is OK … or bandaging them while they are fighting can be very helpful [or popping a heal on them] Randomly buffing them if you have some sort of health/stamina/armor buff is nice. I really miss my shaman and my cleric from everquest, I had some absolutely fantastic buffs I could plink people with …

If you are doing baby quests at a higher level [Im 60, and working my way through all the old world quests for faction and the greens to DE for practice] I will give lower levels the potions and containers that drop. I cant use them, I would just vendor them and this way they get healing or mana pots, and the occasional pouch. Though I did just get a travelers backpack off an undead in EPL that I sent to my bank mule =)

Now and then if I have a quest like deadmines or stockades or scarlet monastary, I will yell to see if anybody needs to go through it, and then drag a group through. Usually it works out well, they get through and we all finish off quests =) though I just wandered through deadmines a couple hours ago, got enough drops to DE to get me up to 100 from 80, so that was good. Next Ill run stockades to DE more goodies.

My hunter hit 75 this morning. Ammo and food upgrade!

That would be so cool! While I’ve enjoyed the hot-knife-through-butter aspects of my DK, he’ll never be my “main” because I just don’t have the investment in him that I do in my other high-level characters. This would have been a great option.

(your character dies, comes back as a DK)

I kind of “roleplayed” my DK on Cairne as an alternate-world version of my warrior on the Argent Dawn server, who had died in Northrend and come back as a DK. Of course, I still had to skill up all my tradeskills, but oh well. (Levelling up reputations seems kind of pointless, unless you’re trying to get mounts, which again seems kind of pointless to me).

On the plus side, it took me way less time to get the knuckle-sandwich achievement, thanks to starting with a 270 unarmed skill, than it would have otherwise.

Well, finally broke down and bought a card from the CCG for an in-game loot I really, really wanted. The screen cap isn’t mine, but I present to you my gnome’s latest ‘ride’, the sandbox tiger!

It wobbles back and forth, just like a real playground ride. Nope, you can’t actually go anywhere with it, and (much to my chagrin) it has limited charges, but anyone can ride it once you place it down. It’s very cute and very fun. :slight_smile:

As has been mentioned, Auctioneer is most accurate for the items that get posted the most frequently. Pay attention to the “Seen X Times” stat, and also try to think logically about whether or not an item was likely to have been posted. Data can get skewed by gold sellers, morons, and weirdos. :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m not quite sure what you’re asking for here. Are you talking about macros, or emotes, or other slash commands?

There are no default in-game macros. All of your macros have to be entered manually in the macro window. For emotes (/dance, /clap, /fart, etc.), there are some listed off of the chat window. Others can probably be found by looking up emotes on WoWWiki. If you’re looking for slash commands that can be used in macros, check out WoWWiki’s macro section.

Oh, I’m very aware–I’m an obsessive skill leveler. But the trash you fished out of the capitals wasn’t worth leveling your fishing there, and the stuff you’d pull out of level-approriate areas often wasn’t worth it, either. (Personally, I did most of my Fishing leveling at Deviate Fish schools in the Barrens–best monetary return for my time.)

The part that actually turns gray is the nameplate on the portrait. Let’s say there’s a mob called the Evil Kobold of Evil. When you click on the EKoE, his portrait pops up in the upper-left of your screen, right next to yours, showing his face, his health, and whatever other Mana/Rage/etc. he has. When you first click on EKoE, if no one else has “tagged” him, the bar behind his name (where it actually says “Evil Kobold of Evil”) will be red. If someone else has “tagged” him, the background to his name will be gray.

When someone “tags” a mob, it means that they did something to the mob that would make it attack them, other than just running up to it. Usually this means a damaging attack, but not always. (For instance, if a Mage uses Polymorph, this would tap the target.)

So, if a lowbie is having a hard time killing something, and you click on it and see that the background under its name on its portrait is gray, you can tell that it’s safe to attack it and the lowbie will still get credit for the kill.

Note that this applies only to people you’re not in a group with–if you’re in a group with the lowbie, they will also get credit for anything you kill. (Although they **will **get a lower amount of XP, since they are in a group with someone of much higher level.)

Read what you just said … emotes and slash commands are macros … it is just that they are written by the developers so we can use a slash <single word> macro instead of having to write lines of code ourselves [I have seen macros for tasks that seem to have about 30 lines … to weapon up, change to a stance, hit something with 3 or 4 different shots, change stance and whack again … personally I don’t macro, i do it myself. I don’t raid any longer so I don’t give a crap =) ]

Dude, you fish to skill up, if you get fish appropriate to level up the cooking also [ if you get the small fish at the under 75 skill level, you can skill up to 75 in cooking with like 4 stacks or something like that without having to buy flour and spice to make bread. Free leveling on cooking, just need to buy one recipe]

I fish between doing other stuff, when I have a few minutes here and there waiting for people, or a fresh pot of coffee, stuff like that. I also tradeskill to relieve grinding quests - I level pretty much everything at the same time. As a bet I ground a DK straight to 80 in 2 weeks, but had no tradeskills or old world faction other than argent dawn [one thing was lots of undead.] I hated it.

We are talking about lowbies not in our group, and I think everybody here that plays understands what I meant by ‘greyed out’ so you really didnt need to do 3 paragraphs of explaination …

People who don’t play WOW have long since clicked onto another thread with glazed eyes wondering what the fuck we are discussing … hell, I tend to glaze out when we get into crunching numbers for raids … I put in way too much time in a raid guild to give a care about mechanics. Ultimate burnout.

However, they are not considered macros in the parlance of the game. In WoW, “macros” are commands created by the user, which is why I found your question to be ambiguous.

Yeah, at lower levels especially, Fishing can be a cheap way to level Cooking (there are even guides for it). Not always the fastest, though.

It was for Quasi’s benefit. You, of course, may feel free to ignore anything you already know. :slight_smile: (Not to mention, the game itself tells you wrong–it says “the enemy cast bar” gets grayed out, which is completely wrong and confused me when I first started playing, since I was always looking in the wrong place.)