World of Warcraft General Discussion

This one is probably your computer, rather than the server. It takes several hundred people in one place to start making server stress obvious, and a city attack rarely involves that many. That also causes delayed casting and looting, rather than moving.

If your computer isn’t particularly high-powered, especially in how much active memory capacity it has, then the sudden arrival of 40+ people, all wearing different armor and firing off every spell effect under the sun, can make your system spend a lot of effort trying to load everything up. If you don’t have enough memory to hold it all, then it has to drop some and start loading up others, then re-load what it dropped and the vicious cycle begins. This is why many people gripe about busy hub cities like Dalaran - large numbers of a wide variety of players is the heaviest strain WoW can put on your computer, and that’s without having them fighting!

Yeah. Shield, dot, dot, wand works great against normal mobs; against elites you’ll have to shield, dot, dot, heal self, re-shield, wand, re-dot, etc. but you should still be able to take down same-level elites with decent gear.

(I’ve kind of been lured over to the dark side (shadow) on my priest, where the intricate tactics involve rolling my face down the three dots, one self-heal, and two attack spells I generally use.)

Grats to all for the various achievements (looks like mostly Pilgrim-y things)!

It was a weekend of alts for me. Probably the biggest fun was getting my Undead Mage all the way to 67 (halfway to 68, even). I think she was 61 when I started, so it was a nice long jump. :smiley: 65 was particularly exciting–I was finally able to start training up her Enchanting/Tailoring again (Flying Carpet yay!) and pick up the Shatt portal.

It gets worse. The guild name is <I SERENITY I>. And many of the other alts my friends and I have in the guild have *Firefly *names, too.

You need Cold Weather Flying to be able to use a flying mount in Northrend. Your first toon has to be 77 to get it; after that, you can use that character to purchase a BOA book to teach it to your alts at 68.

Ahhh, I was assuming you were already 10 or higher, since you mentioned talent points. Yeah, you definitely want to get a wand ASAP. And it’s really only those first few levels that are really a bother: once you have a wand + talent points, it gets much, much easier.

Woohoo, welcome to Outland!

I may have seen it. Once or twice. A minute. :smiley:

I’m a rabid pet collector on Sleutel. I have over 100. :open_mouth:

Nope, she’ll be the same speed always. Probably just more “wide open spaces.”

Because Blizzard is deeply stupid. Capital cities have guards who’ll tell you where trainers are, and the first town outside each starting area has the same kind of guards, but the starting towns in the expansion zones do not. So in Hellfire Peninsula in Outland and in Borean Tundra and Howling Fjord in Northrend, you just have to wander around aimlessly until you find what you’re looking for. :smack:

Also: There are **no **class trainers in Shattrath (the Outland capital city), nor are there Auction Houses. You have to go back to the old-world capitals for that.

The chairs are “vehicles.” When you sit in them, you’ll get a little red arrow by your action bar that you can use to"dismount."

Once you hit 60, you train at every level. I’m not sure there are any new skills at 59, though.

I find Enchanter/Tailor to be a very good match. If you don’t have one yet, Jas09, I strongly suggest you do that with the Priest.

Don’t need a portal to Dalaran–just hop on a boat or a zep to one of the Northrend starting zones. The main towns in Borean Tundra and Howling Fjord are stuffed full of trainers.

Auto-attack keeps attacking once you’ve started. So, you can (a) attack the mob with your ranged weapon, or (b) right-click it, or (c) walk up to it and use a special ability. Any of those will get the ball rolling, so to speak. But the auto-attack won’t ever just activate itself–it needs you to do something to tell it what to hit.

Not until Blizzard comes out with their own tracker. If you get stuck, here’s what I do:

1.) Read the text of the quest itself, carefully. See exactly what it says to do.
2.) Go to Wowhead, enter the name of the quest into the search box, and then read other people’s comments.

:frowning: for still being sans computer, but :slight_smile: for saving for a new one.

It means you need to be in the location “Gorishi Hatchery.” You need to go further into the hive.

No… It’s very… manly… :snicker:

Once you’ve upgraded your account with an expansion pack, it’s there forever.

Right back at’cha! (And seriously, they need to look at hiring some new contractors for that inn roof.)

There’s actually a bug that makes people appear naked sometimes. Next time it happens to you, right-click and inspect the characters. You’ll probably find that all of their armor is equipped–you just can’t see it.

Yup, anything like that can create a bunch of extra information being sent between your computer and the server.

heh I drank one of those Underbelly Elixirs in Dal a couple days ago, and it was the one that makes everybody look like a mage. Wheeee! You’ll never see a better framerate in Dal than when literally everybody is wearing exactly the same outfit. (This elixir also seemed to change some peoples’ sex - the guy in Curiosities & Moore who’s the turn-in for the Infused Mushroom Meatloaf cooking daily was now a woman, as was the flight master. And probably several others I didn’t talk to.

IIRC, that one turns everybody into a female Mage.

Whew. What a weekend. It was a much-needed break from work and I got to spend a lot of time with my 2 little daughters. In WoW I had some fun this past week as well.

Snagged the holiday achievement. I ended up having to have a guildie roll a Troll rogue after I spent 2 days looking for one. I’m sure i would have gotten a few stares from horde toons while I was hanging out in their starting area, but it was empty except for 1 player the entire time!

It was a raiding week for me. Much more than normal. I managed to get on back-to-back 10 and 25 man Onyxia runs early in the week. Nothing for me. =(
I joined a 10 man Ulduar group to try and get XT’s healer shield. Nothing there either, but it ended up being a good group and we cleared 7 bosses with only 1 wipe (on Iron Council) and no players dieing to anything else, which was nice.
My friend managed to get me in as an off-tank for ToC 10 man final boss. That was exciting/scary at the same time. It was an extremely close call. The dps started on the big add before I got to him so I couldn’t get him to an ice patch in time. And of course, he popped up as soon as the MT went down, which sucked. I managed to tank both and we just barely made it with me, a healer, and a ranged dps, all with less than 10% health each. And again, no drops for me. sigh. The good news is that the group liked me enough to get an invite to their weekly 10 man TotGC run! I will be brushing up on strategies, etc asap.

We organized our first guild Onyxia 10 man. We’re not a raiding guild, but we thought we would give it a try to keep the morale up. We had to pug a tank and a warrior because my main was saved. I guess they expected it to go easier and they took off after the second wipe. I had backed out as a melee dps and brought in another healer to help. Unfortunately they weren’t able to down her, but it was a learning experience for the new guys.

Speaking of close calls, we ran a heroic ToC 5 man to get some new 80s some gear. The Black Knight caused us some problems and on phase 3 he was at like 10% and his bolts took out 3 including the tank/healer. The next one took out another dps, and the last one standing, a mage, finished him off after BK left him with 430 hp! We were all cheering like crazy. Even though it was a wiped-filled run(I’m used to 1-shotting everything very quickly), it was one of the funnest(sp?) heroics I’ve done in awhile.

Like I had mentioned it was a big raiding week for me, considering I don’t raid that often. I’m almost burned out. I would probably take a few days off, but i really want to do the TotGC that is tonight.

Other than that, same old stuff. Business as usual.

The toon in question is only level 15 – pretty sure she can’t take the zep to Northrend to train cooking, right?

Sounds like you had a good time, even without the drops, Jbone!

Anybody can go to Northrend at any level, as long as the account has been upgraded to Wrath. You just don’t want to step outside of the city you land in without a heavy escort at that level, is all. :smiley:

There aren’t any level restrictions on hopping on the zeppelin, and it docks you right in town so nothing will aggro on your newb.

I think anyone (who has the expansion) can zep to Northrend. I bet a 15 would probably get killed by the spiders sitting just outside the Borean Tundra starting zone, though, even if he didn’t ever go near the door.

Hmmmm.

On my server, we rogues were more accomodating. A group of us, both Horde and Alliance, congregated just outside the Sunreaver area in Dalaran so people could “turkey” us. I had my Orc, others would bring their Troll, Gnome, Dwarf, Night Elf, etc. People seemed to appreciate it, as I got a lot of waves, thanks, salutes etc. Maybe we were the exception?

Yep. I went up there on a 60 the first day I had Wrath, and almost as soon as I got downstairs, one of the Nerubians outside Warsong Hold aggroed me and actually came into the Hold after me.

I’m tempted to see how far I can get a single-digit-level toon into Warsong Hold before he gets killed by a spider.

What would really be cool is if a single-digit character’s aggro range draws one of those flying ones all the way up to the zep dock.

WOW! That guy’s good. (IMO, anyway;)). Also have been using WoWHead more often these days when I get stuck, and yes, SFG, those comments seem to help more than the information provided on the quests themselves.

One thing I’ve never been “clear” on: Are the co-ord’s BETTER to use than, say QH, where you may or may not get accurate information?

I notice Jame has a download for co-ord usage, but let’s face it: if I don’t understand it, then why use it at all?

It’s just that I see the co-ords in most of the comments on WoWHead, and it looks easy, but I don’t even know how to START.

martu or SFG: I have used carbonite before, and if it IS better than QH, which frankly has not been that helpful as of late, I’ll re-load it but just to be clear: UNINSTALL QH first, right? :smack:

Jame also recommends going to the Outlands and gearing up and then come back and finish in the West, and I was there once before, and did get a couple of kills, but I have a few quests still to complete, as I said, in the West, so I don’t know: what he writes makes a lot of sense: get some good gear and clean up in the West, so maybe I’ll do that. It’s just that I’m kinda “anal” about leaving things undone, ya know?:slight_smile: Also, those guys are quite a bit meaner, so I’m still trying to get my “bearings” so to speak.

I’m just really excited about getting to 60 (1% of the way there now) and this Jame’s levelling guide seems to be a great way to do that.

About the possible siege on SW last night that affected Wolkie’s movements? I neglected to mention that the bottom floor was crawling with Death Knights, so we kinda backed off and logged out.

I know. We’re wusses, right?:slight_smile:

So anybody take a close look at Wolkie and Heather in that side by side picture? 44 Double D’s. Both of 'em. Gotta be!:smiley:

:D:D:D:D

Thanks

Quasi

Yeah, the quest text can often be… less than helpful. :smiley: Fortunately, the game’s been out long enough that many, many other people have done the same quests before, and some of them were helpful enough to jot down a few tips.

They’re not better or worse, just different. QH, in my opinion, is much easier, since it actually puts marks on your map, arrows, etc. With coordinates, you’d have to constantly keep looking at the map and comparing to where you currently are.

Yes, you probably shouldn’t have both of them running at once. But you don’t have to completely uninstall QH–you can just disable it in the Addon menu at the character selection screen. Just hit the Addon button at that screen, then uncheck the QuestHelper box.

I used to be the same way. Finally just starting saying “Aw, fuck it” and moving on when the quests started turning green. 'Course, I also went back later and wrapped 'most everything up, on Sleutel anyway. (For Loremaster.)

Awesome! Are you all excited to get a gryphon?

DKs especially will cause a lot of lag. Newer spell animations + lots of AOE = lots of data flying back and forth.

Honestly, I’m surprised Wolkie doesn’t have terrible back problems. :smiley:

Aha, I was thinking I couldn’t get to Northrend at 15. Maybe I’ll try and see if I can get to the cooking trainer in Warsong Hold. I still have about 20 turkeys left, if I can cook them all it’ll get me up to 320… hmm, except I didn’t save any of the honey or other ingredients. Well maybe there is a level 300 cooking recipe I can buy on the AH. It’d be fun to see how high I can get her cooking skill before level 20 - it’s already higher than any of my other toons except my main 80.

Hah! Yeah, I zepped into Warsong Hold in BT when my belf pally hit 70 last night, and I was surprised at how easy it was to wander outside of the hold proper without even realizing it. Granted, at 70 I could easily handle the big spider that jumped me, but still … there’s nothing to really indicate “you are now leaving the premises”.

The first one my belf pally got was a dwarf, to my surprise. She was in UC, walked out the front gate, and there was a lowbie dwarf rogue standing there in the middle of the road, facing the gate, and waving at everybody who came out. I suspect it was probably some Horde player’s alt, parked there to help other Hordies out. Similarly, on Friday and Saturday I spotted several dwarf rogues with names like “Iloveturkey” just hanging around the Alliance tables, usually dancing.

Alas, she came up three short on that achievement. She never got a human, nelf, or gnome. Main reason being that, on Saturday, I got wrapped up playing my draenei mage (got her almost to lvl 44, and finally finished up her quests in Dustwallow, thank Og - felt like she’d been there forever) and completely forgot to log Keliraeda in to do the dailies. So I wound up without enough turkey guns to get the rest. She just needed that and the "kill Ikiss " achievements for the title. Oh well … next year!

This holiday brought me to the conclusion that Blizzard ought to do something to make the draenei and blood elf starting zones/capitals more easily accessible to players of the appropriate faction. And, basically, give people a reason to go there. While one of my toons was eating at the Exodar tables, I just thought it was kind of … heartbreaking … seeing the NPC Bountiful Table Hostess laughing and cheering like there was a party going on when there was absolutely nobody there but me and her.
I played Keliraeda pretty much all day yesterday, from around 2:00PM to midnight (with breaks). I’d planned to completely finish the process of following the TourGuide leveling guide all the way through Outland before heading to NR, but when I hit 70 I changed my mind. I was 62% through the Netherstorm guide, and still had Shadowmoon to go. So I hit 70, finished/turned in the quests I already had, then headed for NR. I ended up dumping a crapload of Outland herbs and leather on Chimtahna, who is now Keli’s bank alt (and looks really sharp in his tuxedo). Lots of stuff I had been waiting to build full stacks of before auctioning. I decided to start her in Howling Fjord (only visited Warsong Hold to see the Artisan Riding trainer, where I discovered the price of that didn’t go down along with the other riding prices, so that’s going to have to wait), and really had a ball with the starting quests at Vengeance Landing.

I’m actually really looking forward to Winter Veil this year, because that will mark my one-year anniversary in the game. I remember my main (my now-level-80 human pally, Eilyssana) trotting around Goldshire and SW not really knowing what was going on. I was actually pretty overwhelmed by SW, and never really got much past the town square. There were just too many people there. I did manage to find the tram and get her to IF, where she opened a couple gifts and got the Crashin’ Smashin’ Racer, but she was so low-level she couldn’t do much of anything else. Actually, I don’t think she ever even located a WV questgiver, aside from the commoner who sent her to open gifts in IF.

Quasi, QH is pretty darned accurate. The things it points you to simply aren’t guaranteed to always be on the exact spot QH points to. A lot of times there is a large area where you can find what you need, and QH just points you to the center of that area. You still have to search the area.

The only real “problem” with QH is that it only points like a compass. There’s no way for it to tell you if something is underground in a cave or on top of a hill.