World of Warcraft General Discussion

Or they ran with you on their main but are insulting you from an alt just in case their main ends up in a group with you again and they find themselves in need of your services :smiley:

So was I, here’s the bridge, isn’t beautiful? Surely you don’t want to miss this once in a lifetime chance to buy it? :wink:

Yeah, it’s a crafted item, the prices should have dropped after patch 3.3 since before that the Crusader Orbs needed to craft it were only available by doing ToC10/25 or by buying them with Emblems of Triumph, which were in rather limited supply then.

Unfortunately, because you’re wearing a mix of dps, tank and pvp-gear, that gear score is meaningless since it kind of assumes that you’re wearing gear suited for the role you want to fill.
If you want some help finding something more suitable, I’d be happy to help(I mean I just started gearing a plate dps character myself).

At any rate, with the exception of the new ICC 5-mans(and two of those require a prequest so you won’t end up in the Halls of Reflection by accident) the Northrend instances are not hard and as dps you can just go with the flow most of the time and hit the mob with the lowest hp.

Last night our BDL weekly dungeon run ventured into Scholomance. Actually, only three of us were guildies, we had to pug the other two DPS.

It was quite a bit easier than I expected; as long as I was careful to pull one group at a time, and pull them far enough back (because of the Fearing), we were fine. We wiped once, and I had to run back another time when all our rezzers died, but we took down all the bosses and it only took a little over an hour. Also I got some really nice glove and bracer upgrades (although I can’t look them up right now, so no links).

Next week we’re down to LBRS or either wing of Stratholme.

Anytime you want a do-over on a quest, just abandon it and pick it back up again. This is mainly useful for timed bombing run (versus untimed ones, where you just run the flight as many times as you need to get it all) and escort quests.

The color of the sockets don’t matter, ever, except for activating socket bonuses. Meta gems are activated by the color of the actual gem in the socket. A prismatic gem, such as a Nightmare Tear, equals one gem each of Red, Yellow, and Blue. So if your meta gem doesn’t require more than one of any of those, you’re golden, and can socket the rest of your gear as you please.

Ack, not me! I was sick of HFP by the time I finished it on the *first *toon. :smiley:

Both of those should be left clicks. If you’re clicking the item in your bags, it would be a right-click to use it, but since it’s on an action bar, you just click that button normally.

To use a targeted AOE ability (where “using” it pops up the green circle when you’re in range), you always want to left-click your mouse to activate it once you have the green targeting circle on the spot you want.

Yup, the green circle means, “This is what you want to hit, and it’s in range.” The alternative would be a red circle, which mean, “This is what you want to hit, but it’s out of range.”

Yes. They really phrase things poorly sometimes.

I use an addon called Overachiever. It puts in extra tabs on your Achievement window (and extra tooltips, e.g. to tell you if you need to /love a critter or read a book when you mouseover them), including a Search window. You can search achievement names, descriptions, rewards, or all of the above–and it will even return results that are currently hidden on your personal achievement tab because you don’t have the lower ranks of that achievement yet.

I take it you’ve never seen a Warlock’s Succubus demon minion, huh? Same thing–all leather and whips and smacking their own asses while they stand around. :smiley:

Probably someone from a random PUG who rolled a level 1 alt to insult you 'cause they didn’t have the balls to tell you on the character they actually ran with. (Contrast this with me, who will happily tell you in party chat what you’re doing wrong that’s killing us, and then put you on ignore if you don’t improve so I never get stuck running with you again. :D)

A few days ago, someone created a level 1 alt on our server just to insult someone who they ran with from the dungeon finder.

How pathetic is that?

You’re probably right. Still, their opinion is worth shit, because the only time I was ever Faildruid was when I tried to heal regular AN at-level. I’m pretty confident of my abilities at this point. The only factors at this point are lag (of which there is a depressing amount in cross-server dungeons for me), gear (which is more than enough for H TOC, but not for H HOR pre-fixes), and idiot teammates who can’t control their aggro and pull in more damage than I can heal.

Still, it’s kinda confusing. I haven’t run many dungeons on my druid lately, and the ones I have done have been smooth as silk aside from that one regular Forge run I bitched about the other day. Seems weird that someone would make a level 1 character days later; or worse, stalk me waiting until I’m online. :eek:

I just hit Report Spam and didn’t bother responding to him, though, so I don’t know what he was on about. If I get another whisper like that, I’ll ask.

Man, I hate people like that.

I was leveling my Fury warrior and some guy approached me in Org and said “learn ur class”. After a short exchange of “fuck yous” I learned he was talking about the agility gear I had on. I was power leveling through Outlands at the time and I really didn’t care what I was wearing, so long as the Strength/AP (or +hit if I could find it) was higher on the new piece. That meant I was knee deep in greenies that were “of the Bandit” and “of the Tiger”.

In retaliation, I wrote him a thesis on the benefits of stacking agility in Fury warriors (most of it was bullshit) while leveling due to its +crit bonus. This went on for about 20 minutes. All the while he was telling me to “drop it” and that he’ll “report me for harassment”. I continued to type him that thesis one line at a time until he logged.

Stupid Belf. AND a Death Knight, to boot.

Death Knights in Outland have no place telling others to learn their classes. I will (grudgingly) concede that level 80 DKs have some vague idea of how to play their class, but pre-70 DKs don’t know what the hell they’re doing.

Wait, Org. Sigh. I really don’t have good reading comprehension today.

Anybody who tries to criticize another player on their less-than-optimal stat selection on that’s person’s character that is not yet max level is, by definition, a bad. Unless you were stacking caster stats on melee or vice versa, there’s really no judging because of how random rewards can be in terms of finding decent upgrades.

Call me prejudiced if you want (I probably am in this regard!) but I almost instinctively disregard any advice (and almost any communication, unless it’s from a guildie or somebody who’s paying me to craft something for them) from anyone who uses “ur”. In my experience, they’re almost always idiots, and the few that aren’t idiots aren’t worth the aggravation.
Good night for my guild last night! Wednesday is our first raiding night of the week (we do 10 mans on Tuesday) and we one-shotted everything up to Festergut, three-shotted him, and two-shotted Rotface! Tonight we’re going to work on Putricide-25. Should be fun and frustrating, if the 10 man is any indication. My DPS sucked on that fight–so much movement, and Arcane mages hate movement.

Got some nice upgrades, though–the Frozen Bonespike from Marrowgar, Gunship Captain’s Mittens from the Gunship Battle, and tonight I’m picking up my 2-piece T10. That should improve the old DPS (one would hope).

Was embarrassing to do so poorly on Putricide, though. I was fine the rest of the night, so there’s something about that fight I’m not getting yet.

Sho-nuff. Leveling Northrend was frustrating because of all of the Pally healer gear they give as quest rewards. Pally healers make up for 1/9th of all plate wearers and it seemed like they were getting a large number of the quest rewards.

And helms… Jebus, I felt like I was replacing a helm every ten minutes, but the boots I was wearing were from level 49 (epic PvP boots, but still).

Grats on the kills and the gear! IMO, don’t worry about the numbers–everybody worth their salt knows that different classes will perform better on different fights.

Outland is really terrible that way, too–even worse in some respects, because the gear is from back when even Ret and Prot Pallies needed caster stats, so now there are pieces that are useless for everyone, because they’ll have something like +Strength and +Spellpower.

I can’t speak to the exact ratio for Northrend quest rewards, but I know for a fact that Naxx Plate gear was evenly divided (1/3 each) into tanking, DPS, and healing gear. I’d love to see what moron came up with *that *spread. “Gee, guys, there are three possible roles a plate-wearer can fill. That means that we should just divide everything by three, right? I mean, let’s not even consider proportions by possible class-spec combos, or god forbid look at actual population statistics.”

Grats! Good luck on Putricide… he is apparently a real PITA, so much so that many high-end guilds were claiming he must be bugged (which a Blue promptly shot down).

I’ve heard the other two are a little rough too, so I’m a bit worried about our first forays in there this weekend. We finally downed Saurfang last weekend (although the holidays were part of that - really only one week of failed attempts) so I’m thinking it might be a bit of a brick wall until we get the first wing fully on farm. Not that there is anything wrong with that, it’s how progression is supposed to be. But after ToC it certainly feels different having to actually work at boss kills again on non-heroic mode.

The DPS-check on Festergut sounds perhaps a little tight for us, according to some, while others say it’s not so bad. Do you recall where your raid’s DPS was for that fight?

Also, did you get Putricide down in your 10-mans groups? I’m pretty sure the 10-mans derived from our other 25-man team didn’t (and maybe didn’t even get the other two down). Since that 25 is generally a bit ahead of the weekend group, that also doesn’t bode well… :frowning:

If I’m reading the log right, raid DPS was 136455 for our Festergut kill. That’s on 25, obviously. I don’t know what it was on 10.

We didn’t, no. Closest we got was 13%. I felt bad because I died early on that attempt (got tagged by one of the oozes targeting me) and we probably would have downed him if my DPS had been there (bad as it was). I think we have a better handle on the fight, though, so that should help us next time (and for 25 man tonight).

When I first saw it I thought it was something that dropped in the ICC instances, because it had never appeared on my AH until a few days after 3.3 and the new instances went live, but then I spotted other people auctioning the pattern. It must be the same story with a few other iLvl 245+ items I’ve been seeing since 3.3 (like a healer plate chest Something Something of the White Knight ). Though I continue to bemoan the utter lack of suitable leg upgrades. Right now somebody’s selling these crafted pants: Pillars of Might for 24,000g (I see they’ve lowered their price from the 25k they’ve been asking), but as usual, they’re tank pants. The entire time I’ve been checking the AH for DPS plate leg upgrades (several months now), I’ve seen nothing but tank and healer gear, which is why, to this day, I’m still wearing the Savage Saronite Legplates, which are iLvl 187 PvP DPS pants. And so I’m grinding Wyrmrest rep so I can buy Legplates of Bloody Reprisal.

I know, it’s sad. I know I could upgrade by running dungeons, but I still have to gripe at how Blizzard, for two expansions now, seem to have almost completely ignored DPS plate classes when it comes to quest rewards and world loot drops. Seriously, I was frustrated while leveling my belf pally through Outland recently because almost every plate quest reward was healer plate (what the !@#$% is my Arms warrior gonna do when she gets there?), and in WotLK it all seems to be tank tank tank.

Glad somebody gets what I’m saying :slight_smile: My thing is, I read a lot, and I love precise language. I’ve seriously considered applying to Blizzard for a proofreading/editing job. I’m convinced that a lot of the quest text was written by programmers instead of actual writers. I’ve been able to pick out several distinct writing styles that tell me that specific “writers” were responsible for certain groups of quests. I would like to find and throttle the person who wrote much of the orc questgiver dialogue, purely because I’ve encountered three different orc questgivers who use the words “holding up” to mean “hiding out” or something similar, when what they clearly meant was “holing up”. OTOH, I would like to shake hands and buy a round of drinks for those responsible for most of the Forsaken questgiver speech. That’s some brilliant work there.
Oh, I went ahead and put my Avool’s Sword of Jin on the AH and it sold very quickly. I got something like 950g for it :slight_smile:

Crap. Sorry, Quasi! I never can remember what left clicks and right clicks are for in different areas. All I know is that my abilities in my action bar can be clicked with either one.

Yes, I’m an arrow-key mover and a mouse icon clicker. :frowning:

Hm, that’s pretty damn high, unless it’s straight tank-n-spank (which I guess it is apart from spores, right?). I guess on a stand-and-deliver fight like that the tanks do contribute some pretty good DPS as well, maybe 5k per? That works out to about 7.5k per person if you have 17 DPSers, or 8k with 16.

I’m lucky to hit 7.5 on a minimal-movement fight like Koralon, but we do have a few rogues that have been hitting 10k pretty consistently lately. Guess we’ll see how it goes on Sunday.

Did you use 2 tanks or 3?

Yeah, as Horde we used to complain when “pally gear” plate dropped. Then we got pallies. Now in Naxx, we complain again about caster plate.

Heh. A while back I was circling Sholazar farming saronite and titanium, when I got a whisper from somebody with a name like “Brandonsdad” (now there’s a clever name). I guess he was annoyed that he had to compete with me for nodes, because he said, “hey i think ur mom is calling u”. I chose to ignore him, but I did think of several suitable responses: “Brandon? Does your dad know you’re playing his toon and harassing people? I’m going to have to have a word with him next time he’s on.” “My mom? I doubt it. I’m in Washington and she’s in South Dakota. My cell phone is right here next to me, so I’m pretty sure I’d know if she was calling.”

Hah. I swear my belf pally got no fewer than five sets of shoulders from Agmar’s Hammer quests alone.

Is that what that was about? I guess that explains it. Maybe we’ll get lucky and they’ll revamp the Outland gear at the same time they revamp the Old World for Cataclysm.

ilvl 245 = ToC25 BoE or crafted gear, generally speaking. Not sure what the ICC10 ivl is–it might be 245, too, or it might be higher.

Here’s a rundown of some pre-ICC gear levels:
200: Naxx10.
213: Naxx25.
219: Uld10.
226: Uld25.
238: ToC10.
245: ToC25/ToGC10.
258: ToCG25.

I get it 'cause I gripe constantly about the same things (like the holding up/holing up thing you’ve noticed). Blizz could desperately use some proofreaders/editors.

Get thee behind me! Oh wait, you turn too slowly to get behind me… :smiley:

I’ve been hoping for it, but something tells me that they’ll probably just use some sort of “convert X of Stat N to Y of Stat M” algorithm. We can dream, though.