Yeah, I wasn’t paying a lot of attention to the tank mechanic, but I believe FG puts a stacking debuff on one tank that also increases their damage by 10% each time, and you have to do a tank swap when the tank gets to 9 stacks. So that’s some pretty significant tank damage over and above what they normally do.
You know, I’m not sure. I wasn’t really paying attention to that part. I know we had two fulltime tanks, but it’s possible they had a warrior swap to tank spec for the fight. I know we used three for Rotface. (Oh, and I was wrong–we didn’t twoshot him–we oneshotted him :D)
Thanks to Google cache, I can link to my loot from Scholo: Boneclenched Gauntlets and Vigorsteel Vambraces. I felt a little bad because I beat the DK with us on need rolls for both, but they’re both pretty clearly tanking gear. (I know +agi is not the best tanking stat, but it’s got lots of stamina too and the agility improves dodge, at least).
The Gauntlets are definitely tanking gear (+Def), but the Vambraces look like just poorly-itemized DPS gear (or, perhaps more accurately, gear itemized for a time when Warriors would often end up with in-between gear so they could switch between tanking and DPSing on a fight–take a look at the ZG Warrior gear for a good idea of what I’m talking about). With that much +Stam on them, though, though, there’s definitely no problem with a tank rolling Need on them as an upgrade.
I just realized, since the alt night run is currently around levels 58-60, I can run up a DK to help with DPS until my Mage gets up to spec. I don’t enjoy DKs too much, but I like playing with people I know more.
I’ve brought my DK on Cairne (who existed for the sole purpose of farming stuff to sell to finance my actual alt) to a guild run or two for that exact reason. Works out pretty well, since you start out in blues and they’re so faceroll OP, at least at lower levels.
That’d be great! We had a DK pug with us last night, and the chain-pulling thing really helped with some of the casters who didn’t come when I called. He did good damage too.
Like I said, next week will be Strat (at least half anyway) or LBRS.
Yeah, they’re Pwn-In-A-Box, which is necessary when you’re a newbie at level 60.
I can tell you LBRS is a long haul. Even cruising through while stealthed at 80 took a good 15-20 minutes just to get to the final boss, and it was probably longer than that. And unlike Strat, there’s no real midpoint you can stop at.
… maybe we’ll save LBRS for now I need to do it at some point, though, for the Classic Dungeonmaster achievement. I’m also missing Stockades and for some bizarre reason, WC.
I’m not one to criticize or even comment on other people’s gear choices. But if I were, I’d at least try to be helpful, not just snicker at them.
That’s not to say we don’t get some belly laughs in guild chat about level 80s who clearly have no idea how to gear properly for their class.
On a gear note, I have to relay this fun little thing.
I got into a random group for PoS last night and the DK was in all blues because he was “hacked the other night”. In my head, I’m thinking “do you expect us to carry you”? What I said is “I’m not running this with undergeared players” and left the group.
The ring goes 251>259>268>277 from Friendly to Exalted; the intermediate Item Levels don’t really mean anything except that they’re all roughly equidistant.
Depending on your level, you should be able to make it all the way to the instance portal without dying, especially if you do it at a time when the server population is low. (Rolling an Alliance alt and doing a /who Stormwind or a /who Stormwind 80 can be helpful to check on that.) When I solo’d my way through BB King, I didn’t die once on the way in (just when I needed to die to get a good position where the boss would be in the gun’s sweet spot of not-too-far but not-too-close).
I see what you did there. Well, okay, I didn’t, but then I did, once I quoted you.
I try to at least start with, “Why do you want XYZ?” For example, when a Shadow Priest asked if she could roll on a cloak with Attack Power, Agility, and Expertise, I asked why, and she said, “I’m still wearing [links green cloak with caster stats].” I point out that she probably shouldn’t roll on gear just because of its quality level–a green cloak with good stats is infinitely better than a blue cloak with useless stats. The conversation went downhill from there… I think I put most of that party on ignore.
If I’m in a particularly snarky mood, I might get as bad as leading with, “I hear tanking the boss so that his frontal AOE hits the healer and ranged is pro.” But if I think someone sucks, they’ll at least know *why *I think they suck.
Bwahaha, pretty much, yeah. A friend of mine caught a kid in our guild at the time using H-UP trash to level his dagger skill, once. On a Shadow Priest. Coincidence?!?!?!
I’ve run into two other characters who were so ignorant I’m convinced they were either eBayed or powerleveled: a Shaman who didn’t put down totems (“Oh I just hit 80, I’m not used to them” :rolleyes: Then why do I never forget them on my 19 twink?) and a DK who didn’t know that you can’t click off auras (“Can you please turn off Path of Frost?” “Just click it off”) and had her pet on aggressive.
The aura thing I can sort of maybe possibly kiiiinda forgive, but how the hell could you even make it to 80 without using totems? The excuse is worse than the reality.
Course, now I’m starting to think about playing a Shadow Priest. Hmm.
Like I said: eBay. And are there seriously people who’re 80 who don’t know that you can’t click off an aura? IT’S AN AURA, for chri. It’s right there in the name–it’s not a buff you apply; you get it just by standing near the person. Even if you could click it off, it would go right back on again.
That melee cloak SPriest also reminds me of Fail-Druid:
Uh-oh… I definitely didn’t eBay my hunter, but I distinctly remember shame-facedly trying to figure out why I couldn’t move after a wipe on Archavon (I think). I was a pretty-new 80, and very much a new raider (it might have been my first raid in fact). Who knew that DI could be clicked off? And I even play a DK and don’t think I knew that PoF couldn’t be dispelled. :o
As far as intervening with obviously ill- or un-informed players, I try to be nice if it’s in heroics. A DK that’s gemming for SP in H UK? A quick “/w NubDK Hey, did you know that SP doesn’t help your spell attacks? Strength, AP, and Crit would be better for you” works a lot nicer than “/w NubDK OMG L2P NUB!!!1!”
However, I tend to draw the line at raids, especially latest-tier ones. The hunter in the ICC10 PuG last week doing 2.5k DPS gemmed for MP5? Yeah, he heard about it. Cause really, why would you ask to come to the newest, baddest raid in the game if you don’t know your class?
This puts me in the mind of what other challenges could we put on the levelling player besides the totem-less Shaman? A hunter or lock with no pet? A DK getting to 80 in just the starter blue gear (actually that might be pretty easy)? I read an article once about the talentless player (no talent points spent). And someone tried to level without ever killing another humanoid (or was it anything living at all?), but eventually hit a spot where there were no appropriate quests available.
It’s one thing to not know what DI is if you don’t play a Paladin and have never raided before. It’s another to play a class that HAS an aura, and you’ve presumably played with other people with aura abilties, and you still don’t know that other players can’t just click your aura off.
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A quick “/w NubDK Hey, did you know that SP doesn’t help your spell attacks? Strength, AP, and Crit would be better for you” works a lot nicer than “/w NubDK OMG L2P NUB!!!1!”
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This is why I hate that you can’t currently whisper cross-realm in PUGs. I hate having to choose between saying nothing (where the person will continue to be a moron) and saying something in public (where the person will be embarassed and defensive).
IIRC, they were profiled on WoW Insider a while back. They got all the way to 60 or 70, IIRC, and were going to keep going as long as they could. There was also someone who build a melee Hunter.
Works out pretty well, since you start out in blues and they’re so faceroll OP, at least at lower levels.
I need to do it at some point, though, for the Classic Dungeonmaster achievement. I’m also missing Stockades and for some bizarre reason, WC.