World of Warcraft General Discussion

[Ferret_Herder]

Shot, I agree - the holidays used to be just random fun stuff that people did for fun and it took up their entire attention that holiday period just because it was neat, or avoided entirely, or did some stuff for and moved on. Now it’s “omgz fastest flying mount ever - I want to get all the ore/herbs in the world with that” and it’s overcrowded and nasty.

On another note, I finally managed to blunder into some real responsibility in my guild. :smack:

Even when my husband was the guild leader I managed to avoid officership. I outright stated that if I were made an officer I would demand demotion or leave the guild. I didn’t want the responsibility and the hassle.

Furthermore, I saw the headaches that my husband went through as the leader and didn’t want even a percentage of it. I hated duo-ing up with him during this period because we’d be moving through a quest/dungeon/dangerous area/whatever and he’d get a tell about a guild matter, and he’d have to stop and deal with it. And a minute or five later, another. Then another. Sometimes he’d be fielding multiple tells to the point that he’d wave me off if I tried to say one word to him because he was having sensory overload and couldn’t deal. Meanwhile the Big Dangerous Thing would be chomping us to bits. (I soloed a whole lot until months after he gave up guild leadership, as he kept being treated like the de facto leader, and even these days he gets a lot of tell traffic as a guild officer.)

So one of our guild bankers (good withdrawal privileges, plus the duty to keep the place cleaned up and do clearance ‘sales’/disenchant the useless stuff every now and then) left the guild the other night for some weird reason - her husband’s still in and he doesn’t even know why, barring potential menopausal chaos but she won’t even consider getting looked at - and the other hasn’t been on a while. And I figure well, I have a disenchanter, I’m into organizing the bank anyway, and I’ve done almost every tradeskill to Outland or Northrend levels so I know what items are worth keeping. I also have one of those keyfob thingies attached to my account so it’s got security on it. (We used to have more generous withdrawal privileges to higher-ranking characters until one guy got hacked and cleaned out a good portion of our bank. He got hacked again later, too. Me, I’d get a keyfob thingie after the first time, I suspect.)

I mentioned this to our guild leader and she said sure, sounds good.

Then I realized - this means I have to stop putting guildies on ignore when they’re being obnoxious. No more minute’s peace from the 10-year-old who thinks that he can get run-throughs of Azjol-Nerub if he says “please” a few times, like he’s asking Mom and Dad for more ice cream. Or from the 14-year-old who looks at every dungeon as a “what loot might drop for meeeeee!” opportunity, wasting no time in letting us know what he WANTS from the dungeon, and can’t help but link every ubz0r-k3wl bit of loot that he sees on anyone around him. I know, they’re just being eager and a little hyper. I have a low tolerance for hyper so I just turn them “off” for a little while.

Nooooooo…

[Mister_Rik]

@TwistofFate

I once saw a mod called “autogratz” which typed “gratz” into chat everytime someone typed “ding!”

I had that installed for a while, but eventually disabled it. Not only did it start to feel really insincere, it got to be totally obvious it was a macro:

(Eilyssana is my paladin in these examples. Um, and on the server, too.)

Scenario #1: AutoGratz is faster than the speed of light!

[Guild] Mudrucker has earned the achievement [COLOR=“Orange”][Level 80]!
[Guild] Eilyssana says: “Gratz!”
[Guild] Confused says: “LOL How did you say gratz before the achievement was announced?”[/COLOR]

(It was so quick to post “Gratz!” that sometimes, due to latency issues, some people would see the “Gratz!” before the thing it was gratzing.)

Scenario #2: Overkill

[Guild] Mudrucker has earned the achievement [COLOR=“Orange”][Heroic: The Violet Hold]
[Guild] Tankboy has earned the achievement [Heroic: The Violet Hold]
[Guild] Healzforlolz has earned the achievement [Heroic: The Violet Hold]
[Guild] Burnthings has earned the achievement [Heroic: The Violet Hold]
[Guild] Eilyssana says: “Gratz!”
[Guild] Eilyssana says: “Gratz!”
[Guild] Eilyssana says: “Gratz!”
[Guild] Eilyssana says: “Gratz!”[/COLOR]

Scenario #2: Patting Myself on the Back

[Guild] Eilyssana says: ding
[Guild] Eilyssana says: “Gratz!”
:rolleyes:

A few on my friends and I have a tauren deathknight guild called <Last Weeks Steak>.

One of our guild ranks is “Beeftain” and they guy who has it at the moment has a macro that says “The Beeftain Congratulates you on achieving your Achievement” that he mashed everytime the achievement text appears.

That’s awesome! Are you on Lightbringer? I swear I’ve seen that guild name before. Maybe it was here, not there.

Oh, and I just got to see the comedian, Perry Gatner for the first time. Who’s his name a play on, if anybody? He seemed like a tame Don Rickles.

[Gary_Robson]

I agree the gratz thing is getting overdone. Generally, I don’t announce until I hit about level 20, then do every ten. As 80 gets closer and closer, each level is more work and thus more of an accomplishment to announce.

We have some gratz-happy guildies, too. It gets wearying when the achievement pops up in guild chat announcing that someone caught their first fish and they get a half-dozen congratulatory messages for it.

[Shot_From_Guns]

Ferret Herder: Good luck with that. At least as a banking officer you can let your eyes slide past the spam, more or less. I.e., you don’t actually have to pay attention to what the kids are gushing about.

Inre autogratsing addons… I really dislike those. To me, the point of congratulating someone is lost if you don’t bother to do it yourself. I mean, at least make a “/g Grats!” macro that you can click, if you can’t be bothered to type the handful of characters.

My real, burning loathing, though, is reserved for people who use that pet emote addon (on non-RP servers). It’s getting to the point where I want to download it, program it to say things like, “Character 's Cat Whiskers mewls piteously as Character beats him senseless,” and park my Hunter someplace high-traffic.

[Gary_Robson]

@Shot_From_Guns

Inre autogratsing addons… I really dislike those. To me, the point of congratulating someone is lost if you don’t bother to do it yourself. I mean, at least make a “/g Grats!” macro that you can click, if you can’t be bothered to type the handful of characters.

I agree with you. Except for the “ding 47” type of gratzes, I tend to say something different each time. Good job, Tab! Awesome, Sean! When someone announces major acquisitions, I’ll say something like, “Cool! Bring that along on the run tonight” or offer to enchant it for them.

Otherwise, it’s pretty meaningless.

[Infovore]

@Shot_From_Guns

My real, burning loathing, though, is reserved for people who use that pet emote addon (on non-RP servers). It’s getting to the point where I want to download it, program it to say things like, “Character 's Cat Whiskers mewls piteously as Character beats him senseless,” and park my Hunter someplace high-traffic.

I don’t mind PetEmote (I’m on an RP server), though I wish people would take the time to reprogram it a bit so it doesn’t capitalize the pet type name (“Character’s Cat Whiskers” (default) as opposed to “Character’s cat Whiskers” (which you can fix it to do). )

The one that used to bother me a lot was one ex-guildie who had some kind of “Pirate-Speak” addon that would take everything he said, run it through a filter, and spit it out as pirate-speak. The first time was cute. After about the third time more than half the guild wanted to throttle him–and he would not stop using it.

[Shot_From_Guns]

winterhawk, that’s why I specifically mentioned that I’m talking about non-RP servers. I could definitely see it having a use in an RP context, but outside of that, I can almost see the red flames of hatred leaping up before my eyes, and I desperately pray for a way to throttle people through the webbernets.

[Yeticus_Rex]

@InvisibleWombat

I agree the gratz thing is getting overdone. Generally, I don’t announce until I hit about level 20, then do every ten. As 80 gets closer and closer, each level is more work and thus more of an accomplishment to announce.

We have some gratz-happy guildies, too. It gets wearying when the achievement pops up in guild chat announcing that someone caught their first fish and they get a half-dozen congratulatory messages for it.

/woot!

[Mister_Rik]

Well at least I got congratulated today for [Explore Eastern Kingdoms] grumble grumble …

Strange, strange experience in the Ghostlands while I was on my way to explore Eversong Woods. I was riding up that road the goes right up the middle of Ghostlands, and didn’t realize I was entering Tranquillien until I got surprised by a lvl 75 belf town guard (I was lvl 72). I surprised myself by taking him down fairly quickly and easily, but that wasn’t the really surprising part. That part involved me standing there with my PvP flag now flying and turning around to discover a group of three lvl 70-71 belf players standing there not attacking me.

My ego decided they saw me take down the lvl 75 guard very easily and so they decided, “Uh-uh, I ain’t messin’ wit dat!” The more sensible part of me realized they were just too busy dueling each other and they probably didn’t even notice me

Anyway, I got Eversong Woods explored, but died while trying to get “Discovered: Silvermoon City”. I’m not sure why they’re not more consistent about how far you have to go for the “discovered” to ping on capitol cities. When I “discovered” Orgrimmar, all I had to do was race up to where the guards were at the main gate, then turn around and haul ass outta there. Didn’t even have to cross the threshold. For Silvermoon, though, I had to ride past the two guards, through the gate, and around that blockade wall that every gate in Silvermoon has. Whereupon I was dogpiled by three lvl 75 city guards.

Also, why does Silvermoon get lvl 75 guards when all the other capitol cities have lvl 65 guards?

So once I earned [Explore Eastern Kingdoms] I decided I’d been fooling around long enough (I’d been at lvl 72 for 20+ hours of play) and headed back to Northrend to start leveling up again.

Just call me D.E.H.T.A’s Little PITA That bunch of quests was a hoot. “Clam Master K” snerk I’m not sure, however, whether they’re actually making fun of PETA, or making fun of hunters, or making fun of PETA’s propaganda image of hunters. I mean, all the Nesingwary Lackeys were shouting the kinds of stupid things that responsible hunters don’t say. Responsible hunters actually despise the kind of hunters being portrayed, so I have to assume it was all pure parody.

One quest made me say “WTF?!” - When I went to kill Ned the Rhino Master I spotted Ned (lvl 72 Elite) mounted on his lvl 70 rhino and thought, “This is gonna be tough.” It turned out to be very easy to do solo. I killed them both, but then before I could even finish looting them, they respawned practically right on top of me and I had to haul ass out of there because I hadn’t healed yet.

I died the first time I went after Harold Lane (good lord those traps are annoying when you’re a melee character!). I completely forgot about blowing the horn D.E.H.T.A. gave me. I blew that the second time around, and that did the trick.

Also, it’s really irritating when I cast Consecration and it aggroes the very caribou I’m trying to protect. Or when a caribou walks right into my mouse just as I’m right-clicking to loot a hunter corpse. Sigh. Go find some water to wash this blood off …

[Broomstick]

@Mister_Rik

Also, why does Silvermoon get lvl 75 guards when all the other capitol cities have lvl 65 guards?

Probably the proximity of the level 70 island, and because it was part of the BC expansion.

[Nava]

@InvisibleWombat

We have some gratz-happy guildies, too. It gets wearying when the achievement pops up in guild chat announcing that someone caught their first fish and they get a half-dozen congratulatory messages for it.

All my guilds are pretty small, “people below age 20 and with no sense of humor abstain,” so those are greeted with remarks like “dude, at level 80? That better be one BIG fish!”

[mlees]

@Mister_Rik

Also, why does Silvermoon get lvl 75 guards when all the other capitol cities have lvl 65 guards?

There is a teleporter in the courtyard of Undercity (the above-ground part) that will take you to a back room in the palace of Silvermoon.

I do not know if Alliance can use it, but maybe it’s worth a try.

(Be carefull, just outside that back room is a Horde leader, Prince fancypants, with several guards and whatnot.)

[jayjay]

@mlees

There is a teleporter in the courtyard of Undercity (the above-ground part) that will take you to a back room in the palace of Silvermoon.

I do not know if Alliance can use it, but maybe it’s worth a try.

(Be carefull, just outside that back room is a Horde leader, Prince fancypants, with several guards and whatnot.)

And just outside that building (the ONLY exit) is a double line of those lvl 75 guards, about 14 or 16 in all, I think. Not good if you don’t have some kind of “outrun” power (you don’t have time to summon a mount…they’re right outside the building (where you CAN’T summon the mount)).

[mlees]

@jayjay

And just outside that building (the ONLY exit) is a double line of those lvl 75 guards, about 14 or 16 in all, I think. Not good if you don’t have some kind of “outrun” power (you don’t have time to summon a mount…they’re right outside the building (where you CAN’T summon the mount)).

I know. That’s why I told him about Prince fancypants, who he also would have to run by if he came outta the back room.

Is the Palace “seperate”? (As in: no exploration of Silverymoon.)

[jayjay]

@mlees

Is the Palace “seperate”? (As in: no exploration of Silverymoon.)

I don’t remember, actually. Theoretically, there’s no reason it shouldn’t be. But I can’t remember if you get the “Discovered: Silvermoon City” designation just by showing up on the materialization platform.

[Pleonast]

I thought all the cities had level-75 guards since patch 3.0.

[aruvqan]

@jayjay

I don’t remember, actually. Theoretically, there’s no reason it shouldn’t be. But I can’t remember if you get the “Discovered: Silvermoon City” designation just by showing up on the materialization platform.

actually, you can get it running up next to the city walls close enough. You know how with an inn you get the little resting bit on your picture if you snuggle up next to the inn wall? Same sort of dealie. I suppose you could get on your horsie and do a banzai run just into and out of the front gates before the 2 gate guards respond.

I have a baby hordie that has the fishing in stormwind - I banzai’d into stormwind and committed suicide by jumping off the bridge, and rezzed down under the bridge where I fished, then hearthed out.

[Shot_From_Guns]

1.) I thought all capital cities’ guards get bumped up every xpac? So with Wrath, all capital city guards are now 75, five levels below the new cap, as they were all 65 in BC.

2.) I’m pretty sure you can discover Silvermoon just by getting close to the outside walls, but if you were having problems finding an outside spot, why not just stay mounted, ride in, ride out? Easy-peasy if you don’t get stunned off your mount.

3.) Yes, Alliance players can use the orb. That’s why when you’re doing a Horde boss raid, you always go UC -> SM.

4.) The palace is part of Silvermoon, like any other area with a faction boss. Why on earth you’d want to teleport in there to discover it (and become easy ganking fodder for any Horde player also teleporting in) when you could easily ride in and back out the front gates, though, is beyond me.

[jayjay]

@Shot_From_Guns

4.) The palace is part of Silvermoon, like any other area with a faction boss. Why on earth you’d want to teleport in there to discover it (and become easy ganking fodder for any Horde player also teleporting in) when you could easily ride in and back out the front gates, though, is beyond me.

Because you’d only have to die a couple of times to get from the palace to the gates to get into Whatever Forest and Ghostlands, as opposed to possibly dying multiple and tedious times running through East and West Plaguelands (assuming you’re not above lvl 50 and trying to get the E.K. and Kal. Explorer achievements done early).

[Shot_From_Guns]

As previously stated, **Mister Rik’s **character is (or was at the time) 72, so the toon could easily do the run from EPL -> Ghostlands -> Eversong -> SM. Much faster than trying to do a corpse run through the entire city. (The teleportation orb is as far from the front gates as you can get.)