World of Warcraft General Discussion

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1201

It’s kind of scary, but I expect that One Light in the Darkness will be easier than Firefighter or Knock, Knock, Knock on Wood. After last night’s grind fest, I’m rather happy that once we open up Alagnon that we’re only going to be spending an hour a week on him. We did three attempts at hard mode Thorim before moving on (we weren’t focusing on him this week) to Freya for the rest of the night. I don’t know what happened, but it seems like half the raid came down with some form of brain damage as we had people killing the water spirit when Snaplasher was still at 80%. How the hell do you do progression when people seem to forget what they were doing last week? And why has my dps gone even further into the cellar?

On the other hand, I finally dual specced the pally, and started teaching myself the tanking rotation. Need to get enchants on the cobbled mess that is her gear, wonder if I can duo Nexus with a hunter for greens…

1202

Yeah, I’m dreading Mimiron.

How do you handle the split for Thorim? Right now, we’re doing 9 in the gauntlet and 16 in the arena. Sad thing is, it seems like when the gauntlet goes well, the arena messed up, and vice-versa. Also, we usually have 4 or 5 people who don’t pay attention to Vent and (apparently) don’t use DBM, so they don’t position themselves when we get to Thorim.

A month or so ago, we could’ve just replaced those people, but now it seems like we spend a good 30 minutes or so waiting for all 25 people to log on. I blame summer.

1203

I’m not sure how many we do for each, but for our gauntlet group we usually run a DK tank, a few strong ranged DPS (usually me (mage), another equally strong mage, a good hunter, one melee with interrupts (usually a ret paladin for us) and a couple of healers–usually a shaman and a priest. There’s probably another DPS or two in there, but I can’t remember for certain. The DK gathers up the adds, we burn down the Acolyte first (and interrupt him when he heals) and have somebody call out which side the fire attack is coming from. Repeat up until the first mini-boss. Once he’s dead, the DK grabs the second pair of dwarves and one of the mages sheeps the third acolyte (the one on the stairs). We kill the second acolyte and the other two or three dwarves. Meanwhile, the hunter is running up the stairs and bringing the second mini-boss down to where we are.

Out front, we use two tanks (usually warrior and paladin), a lot of melee, and some non-spell-based AoE (hunters, rogue, etc.) The tanks hold the elite adds and the others burn them down (I believe the order is Evoker, Champion, Warbringer, but I might have the first two reversed–as I said, I’m in the gauntlet). When they get a bit of a lull or when the non-elite adds pile up too much, the AoEers take them down. Lather, rinse, repeat. This is the strategy that finally worked for us after many, many wipes (usually in the arena, from getting overwhelmed by the elites).

Yeah, I hear you. Our guild, which is one of the most respected on our server (we’re currently third in progression and known as the ‘mature’ guild) has had to lower its 18-and-over policy on an ad hoc basis in order to get decent raiders. We’ve had a few excellent finds (including one 15-year-old hunter who’s more mature than many of our adult members) and a few misses (like the 17-year-old ret paladin who just left the guild yesterday because he was mad that he (an applicant) didn’t get our guild’s first T8 helm (because of course, his DPS was high, so he should get it). We’re finally getting back to the point where we don’t have to scramble for people.

1204

I’m heading out after work, but if I don’t get home too late, I’ll see if my pocket healer’s up for a stab at it. I’m a Prot Warrior, he’s a Resto Druid, and we’re both decently geared (mostly 213/226 epics).

1205

Interesting. So, you don’t run up to the second mini-boss? Typically, we have our tank and me (Holy Priest) run up to him while the others take care of the adds.

1206

Nope, we tried doing that and it didn’t work for us. YMMV, of course. I think the important part is just to engage him early rather than waiting until all the dwarves are down. If you’re getting everything down and getting to Thorim with your team relatively intact on both ends, then “ur doin it right.” :slight_smile:

1207

And how was Freya?

1208

SFG!

Thanks for abswering my questions! It took me a while to out, but yeah, I’m Human Warrior Class, and went to the auction house and saw some armor, but none straonger than what I am already wearing.

I would like to know if I have the correct weapon in fighting with blackwater cutlass only. I was using a two handed sword, but I was seeing some bad boys I hab’t seen before when using just the pitted Defias short sword.

Also, I have to tell y’all that I get some double-takes as people see me walking instead of running to my next destination!

Thanks

Bill

1209

Surprisingly Freya wasn’t that bad. I think we got her after a few attempts over a couple of nights. The big tree add isn’t bad; the three larger adds are probably the toughest, because they have to die within a few seconds of each other so it took some coordination. The big pack of flowers we just AoE’d down until they were close to death (since they explode) and then single-targeted them down.

Other than that, it was just a matter of burning down the Eonar’s Gift trees when she summoned them, and following her around trying to stay out of the way of the spores. She’s not all that tough once you get all her friends down. :slight_smile:

1210

For no particular reason I decided to take another stab at a druid. Made a brand new nelf druid, finished the first quest, and while I was getting the second quest from the questgiver, I heard the duel-challenge noise and saw AutoDecline’s message that a duel request was declined.

My level 2 druid was being challenged by a level 4 warrior. Dude must have been either really bored or really stupid, because he still hadn’t figured out I wasn’t interested in dueling after the 6th or 7th decline. I’m thinking, “Dude, I just now hit level 2! I know one offensive spell and one healing spell and I’m still wearing my starting 2-defense cloth robe. What the hell am I gonna duel you with?”

He was apparently challenging anybody he could find in the starting zone, because I saw him engaged in a couple fights. While I was talking to the druid trainer (way the hell up that big tree), a level 1 warrior came running into the room with this same guy right behind him, and they ended up fighting right there. Then the dude challenged me again while I was still talking to the trainer. And then he ran up to challenge me yet again while I was talking to Tarindrella (or whatever that dryad’s name is).

I finally just logged out because he was getting so annoying. I think that next time I encounter somebody that stupid and eager to duel, I’m going to go ahead and accept and then just stand there casting healing spells at him. That ought to confuse the !@#$ out of him. Or is it even possible to cast heals at a duel opponent? If that’s not possible, I’ll just accept the challenge and then quickly strip naked and not fight back :smiley:

Anyway, ya know, I really wish the game had something like leather robe armor. Just because (I may have mentioned this before some months ago) the robe a female nelf druid starts in looks really cool, but you only get to wear it for maybe 10 minutes or so before you find a piece of leather chest armor that has much higher defense than the robe.

1211

I don’t have an auto-decline mod. When someone /duels me, I just don’t click on either button. It’ll auto-decline after a while, but as long as the window’s up the idiot can’t throw any more /duels around. Puts a damper on their fun.

1212

My bad about the cutlass. Apparently, while I CAN buy it, I am unable to fight with it, for some reason, so I’m back to the short sword.

Somebody helped me to finally kill Hogger.

He’s been a “thorn in my side” for a couple of weeks now.:smiley:

Back to one of my unanswered (or maybe I just missed it) questions: Does the choice of a different weapon (i.e. the two-handed long sword) bring out random (different and more volatile) adversaries?

Sorry, kids. Just remember: I am not “in a race” to level up", so I may ask some questions so simple (to you) that you may have forgotten the answer! :slight_smile:

So can I make a suggestion?

Since we seem to have pretty much the same knowledgable people posting here regularly, maybe y’all could take turns (Your week to field the dweeb’s questions, Dude,"):rolleyes:? :slight_smile:

Let me add this little caveat?

I do, go to WIKIA, as has been suggested. It’s been bookmarked, and yes, I do find answers there as well, but when I come here, I just feel like I’m part of the “gang” and sometimes I wanna put my questions in “story form”, because when I go to Azeroth, I really am in Azeroth.

I just think it’s cool that I don’t have to ride the “short bus” to get there! :wink: or t

ROW-FLA-MOW!

Q

PS: Sometimes, I just go to do “bidness” at the bank or take a night flight over the Elwynn forest. Hell, sometimes I just take walk to the old Cathedral and reminisce!

Kinda like The Stormwind Greeter (as it were)!

:smiley:

1213

Oooo, I’ll have to remember that one :evil grin:
Last night my undead mage happened to wander into the UC throne room right in the middle of a raid (hence my “Oooo, pretty lights!” in guild chat, in case anyone wondered what that was about). One heck of a big battle. I never saw Sylvanas, but I guess they eventually killed her. But I was astonished as all hell to discover that big ol’ Varimathras just sort of … stands there … and doesn’t do a damned thing while the room is full of Alliance raiders slaughtering everybody in sight. Weirdness.

1214

That’s because for them, he doesn’t exist.

Once you do the Wrathgate quest event in Dragonblight around lvl 75ish, there’s a quest triggered that involves Varimathras. Avoiding being too spoilery, he won’t be in the throne room any longer after you do that quest. This is an example of the “phasing” technology that they’re using.

1215

Alliance. I’ve not played a horde character since I first bought the game. I was annoyed that Horde Tauren/Orc/Trolls couldn’t kill their own undead “allies” so I stopped playing my Tauren shaman. My characters don’t like the undead. Like me, they feel that the only good undead, is a dead, dismembered undead. :wink:

But yeah, the only quest line I liked in Borean Tundra was the DEHTA line. That and Last Rites (which I barely managed to solo at 77).

Haven’t played in Sholazar yet. That’s my next stop on my way to making the 5000 gold necessary for Artisan flight.

1216

Okay, that makes sense. When I was asking about it in the Local Defense channel, they were saying things along the lines that Blizzard made him so he doesn’t aggro on raids because none of the other capitol city “throne rooms” have two “Boss” characters.

Quasi, I hate hate hate Hogger!

1217

Unless they changed it, I thought that both Vol’Jin (in Org) and another BElf (in SMC) were labeled as bosses.

1218

I’m over near Duskwood as we speak. I understand his camp is SOUTH, but south of where?
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He’s just one of a lot of “Loose Ends” I need to get cleaned up to get a better weapon.

Went To Wikia, but not much help there.

Human Warrior… I am I am! :wink:

1219

South of the road…if you’re in the Redridge Mountains, you’re too far east. If you’re in Duskwood, you’re too far south. You got the quest off of Marshal Whatsisname at the lumber camp, right? If you go south of him to the road, then go east on that road until you’re almost against the mountains on the border with Redridge, but just WEST of them. Then go south of the road. There should be a hollow with a bunch of Defias around it. Jack’s in that camp.

1220

Thanks, on my way!

Q