World of Warcraft: Legion general discussion thread 19 July 2016

Well, I’m glad the thing didn’t cost that much of a currency I don’t have much use for ATM, then.

That said, I’m going to miss the +13% experience-and-rep buff. I leveled a Lvl 102 warrior/miner/blacksmith to 110, and now the second-most-advanced character I have (in terms of ilvl and advancement in zone quest lines). Largely through the tasty buff. Makes the grind less grindy.

Worst anniversary gift ever. The xp/rep buff does no good if toons are all max level and rep. Thanks, Blizzard.

Well, lousy gift for you and for other players that apparently focus all their attention into mains. But a lot of players have alts languishing because this xpack is less alt-friendly than before. And that’s what the bonus is good for.

NB: I’m pretty sure the last few years have had bonus anniversary items like that.

This is the most alt-friendly xpac since WOTLK; it’s certainly more friendly than MOP or WOD.

And I say that because all my alts are max level and max rep; yes, all 11 of them. Average ilvl is about 920 for most and upwards of 940 for a few. And I rarely play any more; all this was done by the end of last summer.

So yeah, I was hoping for another silly pet or a cool xmog item or something; not a “limited time offer” buff for xp. FFS, the game is already ridiculously carebear as far as leveling goes: the entire game is focused on players being max level, after all.

Another world-famous “my experience is the only one that matters” post.

WoD was much easier for me to level and skill up alts. I don’t know what your experience tells you, but it has nothing to do with my experience. (And I’m tired of the implied “you’re playing the game wrong” bullshit.)

I dunno about that. Legion flying seemed a lot easier to get than Warlords; that, heirlooms to 110, and leveling zones made Legion leveling ridiculously fast. For any of my heirloomed alts, I was hitting 110 about an hour into my third zone. I came back to a 108 demon hunter a month before 7.3 dropped, and I’m now sitting on 5 max level toons with ilvls between 905 and 930, though reps are only maxed on one of them (I hatehatehatehatehate rep grinds). Profession leveling, on the other hand, can just go back to whatever layer of hell it came from. 160 chaos crystals and 1600 arkhana just to get the last 40 points in enchanting? Hell no.

I have the joy of leveling both JC and Engineering and no alt with sufficiently high mining skill. The shoulder enchants the faction quartermasters sell are a big help, though, as is that Primal Sargerite vendor in the Vindicaar.

Still, it’s kind of soul-killing to have to decide whether to blow 10 Primal Sargerite for the slight possibility of a skillup at 795/800, and to prospect 100 Empyrium and maybe get 4-5 epic gems, and 2-3 of them aren’t ones I can use for skillups. Anyone want gem chips?

(I actually like profession and rep grinds. :))

Concordance of the Legionfall is my current soul-killer. I’m at lvl 21 and it’s like 168 billion AP to the next level. I know I’m probably not meant to finish it, but its mere existence makes me want to.

Meh, I’m on the same level (I think its 73 going to 74) and while 168 billion seems like a lot… I think it’ll only take like a week without really even grinding too much. I mean Antorus has 11 bosses and I think we get something like 3 billion per boss so that is 33 billion by itself not counting any double procs. I think someone did say that we reached maximum AK this week though, so AP rewards won’t get any larger than they are now.

I’ve been running a few heroics on my tankadin, only to discover that tanks are largely irrelevant in heroics. Most groups seem to have at least one guy doing 1.2 million dps. with the other two averaging around 750K. They may need me to pull a boss and hold it for a little bit, but it’s probably going to be dead in under a minute.

I ran the first wing of the new LFR. I burned three bonus rolls and still got nothing but artifact power. :frowning:

I ran the first wing of the new LFR twice. Once with my Death Knight – got nothing but artifact power and the buff crystals. Then with my Ret Paladin, who got a level 915 cloak. Unfortunately the paladin already has an heirloom 970 cloak - the one heirloom that character has.

I passed the cloak off to another player in the raid group who asked nicely if I needed it, but still – one item drop and I can’t use it? Grrrrr!!

My main is a Shaman, when I queue for a random heroic I usually queue as a healer but then just dps (enhance). I generally end up throwing out a few spot heals here and there but mostly we just blow stuff up real good. With a tank & four dps you can almost run with out needing any heals at all unless someone completely ignores a boss mechanic.

I’m now 0 for 2 on the Pantheon Trinket from Argus :frowning: but I did loot one of the upgrade thingies for it this week, so there’s that. I wouldn’t be so sad if it wasn’t the only trinket worth getting in Antorus for Enhance Shaman.

What I despise are overgeared tanks that turn heroics into involuntary speedruns. The perverse incentive of giving upgrade tokens towards improving your legendries only in random heroics means that said tank has an antisocial interest in getting to and killing the final boss as fast as possible, by himself if possible. So “screw loot, screw quests, screw the rest of the party, you losers are here only because I have to queue for LFD to get the reward, you can all die in fire as far as I’m concerned.”

Heh. My pet peeve is the DPS types that do that, while I’m working on my traditional, methodical tanking skills. I strongly prefer to do the pulling myself and set the pace.

I don’t raid, so not for me. :slight_smile: It takes me about 2.5-3 weeks per level these days getting AP world quest rewards.

It was a little more exciting when Argus gear rewards were all upgrades, but that ended weeks ago. I have gotten 2 legendaries since, though, so there’s that.

Well, the difference is that DPSers who do that are often punished by dying to their arrogance (although with massive overgearing, less often than would be just and fair.)

Top-end tanks have no such limitation. I’ve been in parties in which absolutely no one touched a boss up to the last one, simply because the tank had speed improvements to say ahead of everyone else, massive DPS output to kill everything he needed with no help, mitigation and self-healing to never require group heals, and no desire whatsoever to wait for anyone else. It was especially galling to be trapped outside the “sealed” boss fight area so the tank could keep ahead of us even if we almost caught up. :mad:

Everyone still gets “quest” credit for the dungeon, but not boss drops if you don’t participate in that kill. (Not sure if this would apply to even quest-item drops for dungeon quests, like those for certain order hall or crafting skills. Never saw that happen; it definitely would have tightened my jaw if I couldn’t get the quest drop which was the only reason I queued all because a selfish jackass hurried the run for the sake of the only reason he queued.

Hi all. I stopped playing WoW after we defeated the Lich King, then I had a kid and Cataclysm came out a year later. Is WoW Still OK by modern MMo standards? Is it kid friendly enough for a 9 year old?

I’d be a bit careful about some of the cut scenes being a bit violent, but those are generally towards the higher level content and raiding. Also, make sure to turn off/leave/ignore most of the General and Trade chats, or even all channels completely, as that can get dicey and a lot of people will get around profanity filters and the like. Other than that, it’s pretty good, and most classes have a pretty simple leveling curve and hold your hand for quite a while.

I’ve played on and off with my daughter over the past year. She’s 10. It hasn’t been a problem for her; the game is cartoony enough that the violence doesn’t bother her and we’ve had a lot of fun when we played.

Now 0 for 3 on the Agrus trinket. I guess I’m not too bummed, cause I know it’ll come eventually. Hopefully sooner rather than later though, as it’s BiS for enhancement Shammies.

Well I’m having fun now that I’ve finally jumped into Legion content. I had gotten my main (ret pally) to 110 early on, and then just stuck with doing WoD stuff and farming old raids for transmog because my GPU is so out of date - I’m still playing on the same iMac I started with in Wrath. Heh. For literally all of my toons except my monk and DH (for whom there is no gear), there is literally nothing left for me to farm out of Firelands except for the flying mount. I’m still bopping in there every now and then cuz I want that mount for my fire mage. She already rides the Flame Talon of Alysrazor for her ground mount and the orange hippogryph from the Molten Front dailies, and her transmog is on fire, and she just got one of the new flaming dog pets. Fire … heh heh heh … FIRE!

So I’ve got seven toons to 110 (paladin, mage, rogue, shaman, warrior, warlock, druid), and my hunter is just shy of dinging 109. Priest is at 106, and I’ve only just started leveling my DH, though she’s starting leveling at 103 because she picked up XP from the DMF and fishing/cooking dailies. I’ve set a goal for myself to earn the guild achievement for one of each class to max level, and decided to get it done this expansion so I don’t have to start all over trying again in BfA.

The DK is the one I rolled in 2009 and then abandoned at level 63, and now he’s wielding the reforged Frostmourne. I rolled the monk at the beginning of MoP, but barely touched her after level 30-something. She’s up to 80 now, getting ready to start Cata leveling. I realized that I never got a Pandaren toon as far as Pandaria.

As far as the DH, the rotation is really taking some getting used to. Before I took her out questing I thought I’d spend some time on the “target dummies” in the order hall. That proved fruitless, due to the poorly-thought-out placement of said dummies. When one of the main abilities of one of the specs (Havoc) is a dash-straight-through-your-enemy attack (can’t think of the name right now), putting the dummy against a solid wall, and having a somewhat steep drop-off to either side is a bad idea. I spent half of the brief session either extricating myself from between the wall and the dummy or trying to relocate the dummy after dashing down the slope to either side. I also seem to be having some difficulty activating Glide properly. Trying to get to the order hall, I jump off the side of Dalaran and it’s hit-or-miss whether my wings pop out and I glide to the island, or I drop like a rock and get scooped up by a felbat.

Professions … I am no more likely at this point to max any of my crafting professions than I am to finish any Order Hall Campaigns. One Normal dungeon at 8 FPS was enough to convince me that I won’t do any more until I can get a new computer. I’m counting on DMF profession quests to max things before the end of the expansion. And the Campaigns - those “pretend you’re Illidan for Xe’ra” quests make me unlikely to finish the campaign for even one class. I started them on my paladin and after the second round I said, “Yah, enough of this shit. I’ve read the damn book.” And I’m consistent on that point. I’ve hated vehicle quests since Wrath. I want to play my character, not a random NPC.

All that said, I’m really enjoying the expansion. I love the changes to some classes/specs (my fire mage absolutely rocks, and I’m finally playing a shaman and druid and enjoying them) and hate the changes to others (shadow priest, I really hope you suddenly get good at 110).

ETA: Oh, and the very first friend I made “in game” back during Wrath has started playing again, so it’s been nice to catch up with him. I got to tell him I’d gotten married since the last time we spoke :slight_smile: