And right under that it says:
Meaning not the son of God.
And LDS is a type of Christian.
Jesus HIMSELF said he was a Jew. It’s a rather unambiguous point made many times in the Bible.
Why would He change his mind?
What type of pin? Flat head, round head, push pin. By what manufacturer? I see no obvious benchmarks here for your assumption.
What does that have to do with whether or not Jesus is going to come back a second time and the apocalypse (Revelations)?
Well, only the part that says ‘Jesus will come back’. If Jesus’ return heralds the angels carting out the Holy Barbeque, serving up some really heavenly chicken wings, and casting them in a lake of firey hot sauce, then Revelations really wasn’t correct.
Whoa. Jesus is God. God is Jewish. God is always right isn’t he? I mean, he really wouldn’t be wrong about something like that, would he? So, does that mean that if Christianity is right, Judaism is the correct religion?
Of course that means accepting certain interpretations of particular passages. Others, like myself, would say that those things were taught and stressed by later followers who actually misunderstood his teachings and stressed the wrong verses while downplaying other important ones.
Theoretically, Christianity is just an interpretation of Judaism. The New Testament isn’t a rewrite of the old book, it’s just added perspective on it. Within Judaism there is, similarly, the Talmud (though I gather that it’s significantly longer, and of course isn’t purported to come from the Son of God).
OTOH, it’s far from certain Jesus believed he was the son of God. That ain’t the Jewish Messiah. The Messiah is not divine, he is a mortal man favored of God, the “son of God” only in a metaphorical sense. I don’t think he’s supposed to be executed or rise from the dead, either, but you could interpret some OT passages that way if you strain. If Jesus were the resurrected Jewish Messiah, he (definitely “he” with a lower-case “h”) would be utterly horrified by a religion that worships him!
Actually, it was Peter, who Jesus made into the head of His new church. Paul’s books were written to Christian churches. Even if Saul wasn’t converted into Paul, we would still have Jesus’ church. In that case Jesus was DIRECTLY responsible for Christianity.
I bet he would have some choice words for televangelists, dominionists, and what passes for “christian” in some circles.
Oh wait, he already has had some very choice words. Dens of inequity, vipers, rotting tombs, thieves, wolves in sheeps clothing, judge not, etc.
No, he wouold certainly NOT be a christian, as SOME people define that.
I’m pretty sure that when Jesus gets here He is going to redefine Christianity.
You know, this question sort of makes me want to ask a similar question of Buddha. Was Buddha a Buddhist?
I was reading about this earlier this week, supposedly he was baptized by John or Peter or Paul. There is even a map of his possible baptism spot in my bible.
Therefore, I would conclude that Jesus was Jewish, but converted to Christianity.
But, I’ll believe it when I see a baptismal certificate.
You know, being Jewish is both a religion and a race. If Jesus converted to Christianity I don’t think he would stop being Jewish.
According to Matthew chapter 16 Jesus said he would return in glory with his angels before some of them standing there saw death. That would contradict Johns Revelations. He also said that generation would not pass away until all things were accomplished; many generations have passed. The RCC translates generation to mean something different, but Matthew also uses the word Generation as we do now, when he gave the generations between Jesus and David, he states there were 14 generations between them.
It would seem in that case he would not come as a Christian, as Christianity would not yet be established.
The psalmist calls the Jewish people god and son’s of god,Jesus(According to the NT) reminded the pharisees of that when he was accused of Blasphmey that their fathers also called themselves gods and sons of god.
In that age even the Pharohs were called gods, or thought of that way, so the meaning of the word god would not be as we think of it today. It seems each culture had it’s god, and they all wanted their god to be more powerful than the other. It is my understanding that back in that time the Jewish people believed their god was only for them. The idea evolved to mean only one god for all.
“If Christ himself were alive, one thing he would not be would be a Christian.” - Mark Twain
And I fully believe that!
I am not a Muslim, but I have tried to learn as much about this religion as I can. One thing I’ve learned (I may be wrong, if there’s any Muslims or those that know the Quran better than I) is that Muslims also believe that Jesus is the central figure in their escatology, and that he will return pretty much as Revelation describes (although it is the non-Muslims that will be cast into the lake of fire) - Jesus, while not being the son of God in Islam, is one of their five great prophets (the other four are Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Muhammed), and I think Muslims (or at least the Quran, a Muslim himself might have to get over a lot of political baggage to say this) would agree with most of what the Bible says about Jesus and what He said (except, of course, for him being God’s Son and that the only way to salvation is through Him.)
Also, except for the Crucifixion & Resurrection.
I’ll grant you the Resurrection, but how did they believe he died? That is something I haven’t learned yet, and I figured they believed that his cause of death was crucifixion (whether you believe that Jesus was God or not, if you believe he existed, it seems that there’s general agreement that he was at least crucified, makes sense to me, as that’s what the Romans did with their troublemakers, which Jesus more than qualified as one.)