I know these people that have 2 boys ages 13 and 15 and a 17 year old girl.
The 13 and 15 year old share a bedroom and on the wall they had pages from porno magazines on the walls and in the living room on the coffee table there was an old “Playboy” out in the open for all family members to enjoy.
Their dad says he would rather have them looking at some “fine naked women” now than to turn out gay later and that he knows they will get their hands on X-rated stuff sooner or later so it is better to have it available at home.
I’m not being judgemental because it’s not like my Brothers and I have never had porn magazines in the house before but the difference is that my parents knew nothing about it and it was well hidden because if my parents would have seen it, then we would be in trouble.
If the police came in the house for some reason and saw the naked ladies on the wall would that be considered “child abuse”?
IANAL, but I’d hazard the guess that it would be more along the lines of “contributing to the delinquincy of a minor” at the least. Also, it would depend on the state. I think some states do have statutes against exposing minors under a certain age to porn, and that such is considered a type of sexual molestation. Not postive on that though.
Having pictures of naked women around isn’t going to keep a kid from turning out to be gay. :rolleyes:
As for the rest of it…I think it’s overkill, but he’s got a point in that they’re going to have porn around somewhere. At least this way it isn’t a huge dirty secret. All of that is putting aside the legality of it.
Did the dad force the kids to put up pics of naked women? If so I’d call that inappropriate, legally I don’t know if it would justify as abuse or not.
Having a Playboy on the coffee table isn’t a big deal.
Here’s the thing though, on several threads here on TSD we’ve had people lambast the United States for being “afraid” to show naked women on TV. Often the argument goes that teens/kids need to understand sexuality and it’s a “big problem” that the United States is so suppressive.
I think if the OP had hidden the fact the father was doing this to “keep the kids from being gay” then no one would have problem with it, or at least we’d catch some people in some hypocrisy if we were to check back on the thread about censorhip of boobs on American TV.
I think at the very least, the dad is trying way too hard. But this family sounds seriously dysfunctional. I don’t know about any specific laws the dad broke (hell, my dad showed me playboy magazines at that age, and I don’t think it warped my mind, nor do I think of my dad as some sort of crook in that regard).
What does mom/big sister say about this? I’m really curious about how the female members of the family think about all the smut.
The dad is doing this so his sons don’t turn out gay? He is just begging them to do something to him out of spite the next time they get in a spat. If the dad is uncomfortable about the idea that his sons might actually be gay, that’s his problem. Whether his sons are gay or not, they are eventually going to come to resent the attitude their father has, and may realize that normal male behavior of whatever sexual preference they have isn’t dictated by what they are comfortable with, it will be dicated by what their father deems as ‘normal’ or ‘gay’
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Well, he’s probably hoping she’ll turn out to be a girl who will eagerly agree when her boyfriend asks her to get her hot female roommate to join them for a threesome.
You know, what Dad’s wife never did agree to, despite his begging and pleading.
I strongly disagree with this statement. I’m a guardian ad litem, which is an advocate for children that are in the court system due to being abused or neglected. Yes, it IS abuse to expose minors to pornography. Absolutely. Without a doubt.
I can vouch for this from personal experience. When I was in high school, my best friend’s dad allowed him to look at Playboy and Penthouse, and since he had so many copies lying around, allowed me to borrow them ocassionally. Now, he didn’t turn out to be gay at all. But I was secretly working hard to be straight, thinking that if I just kept looking at pictures of naked women, I’d turn around somehow. I found my brother’s stash of Playboy and porn mags, and I’d page through all of this stuff. Never worked.
BTW: my best friend’s father didn’t leave them out for the younger children to view, and the girls in the family never saw them. His father was a porn consumer, but felt that his son was reaching adulthood and decided it was better to know what his son was doing rather than have him hide it.
Well, he’s an idiot if he thinks this is going to keep the kids from “turning out gay,” but assuming that it was the boys’ choice to put the pictures on the wall, I can’t see anything abusive about the situation. And, well, Playboy is pretty tame as far as these publications go. Maybe he figures if they have access to soft-core porn it’ll keep them from seeking out worse?
Whether the kids like it or not is a non-issue. Sexualization of the home is child abuse. Research the laws, or take it from those of us that know the law intimately.
But the problem here is not the “nekkid ladies” on display, its the fact that Daddy is standing over them and strongly encouraging them to have a good long ol’ look. That’s ever-so-slightly creeepy. There’s a difference between seeing a Bertolucci film by yourself or with friends/boyfriend/girlfriend, and being pressed into watching it with Dad when you’re a 13 year old boy. Ew!
I should mention that this is not encouraged or forced but allowed…I’m sure if the boys said they didn’t want to have any naked ladies on the wall, Dad wouldn’t have a problem with it.
It’s just that if they want to look at porn their Dad isn’t going to tell them they can’t do it or shouldn’t do it.
I had a friend as a kid whose mother bought him a subscription to Playboy. This was in the 6th or 7th grade. He’s a very prominent Republican state legislator now (not in my state.) I don’t know what the significance of this is.
