Would you be sacrifice your own life for a guaranteed Trump loss?

Well put.

Oh…this is just too easy a choice. It plays into the martyrdom so many can easily imagine themselves bravely and nobly facing. Let’s make it difficult. Would you slice the throat of the person you love the most in the world, while looking into their eyes and watching them die, to guarantee a Trump loss? Spouse, child, parent…doesn’t matter who the loved one is, just that you love them the most.

Thank you. I was searching in vain for someone who might be worse than Trump. Roy Moore would probably be worse. He’s more of a true believer than Trump, and more competent.

Related comedy bit I saw:

Question: If you had to spend the rest of your life on a deserted island and could bring only one thing, what would it be?

Voted the best answer: I’d take one for the team and bring Trump.

I didn’t really mean it to be binary.

In fact, I’d be willing to sweeten the pot and anybody on the planet of your choice (including people not currently running) would be president. It’s too late to have that be a poll choice though.

Seriously? It’s that hard?

Not David Duke, Richard Spencer, Steve Bannon, the BTK Killer?

The BTK Killer has some interesting and nuanced views on monetary policy.

Can you guarantee at least a 4 year term? No backsies, and no weird fiddling with strict interpretation of the rules?

Then I accept and choose myself as president. HA! Trump’s out and I’ve got at least 4 years to live. In your face Monkey paw boy!

Trump’s policy seems to be “You give money to me; I don’t give money to you”.

Give money to say, contractors, charities, and Puerto Rico.

I’ve said that the left on this board has gone off the deep end before. I was wrong. Now they have. Trump is so bad that some would personally die to keep him out of office.

You guys realize that this is getting into cult-type levels of insanity? No personal insults meant, but damn…you would die to keep him out of office. That is some hard core left wing shit right there.

No wonder some people say that the board is left leaning.

this board is left leaning like the Pope is catholic leaning :slight_smile:

To me I believe God allowed Trump to be elected to point out all the hatred in our society which appears to be emboldened by his election. As such there is a reason for Trump to be president, it is basically 'hey humans you are not such a enlightened society that you thought and have work to do before advancing"

As such I don’t see any purpose in your proposal. Trump is president for us to easier see hatred which I assume is a chance to heal it. Being able to get Trump out doesn’t heal the hate.

Now getting rid of the hate, yes that would be a reason to die for.

I’m just curious: I know people who voted for Hillary Clinton. I also know people who voted for Donald Trump. What, exactly, do you believe that God had to do with their respective decisions? Do you believe that there are people who were going to vote for Hillary, or weren’t going to vote at all, and, then, suddenly — what?

To be fair, only 1 out of 44 votes so far is “yes.” You can get 1/44 to vote for almost anything.

Mysterious ways man.

I wonder how far that’d go. Like, does kanicbird also think that Romney would’ve won if American voters had done as they’d seen fit — except, well, God made enough folks vote for Obama instead? Would the electorate have put Al Gore in office, but then God Himself swapped in Dubya, so sayeth kanicbird?

Like, always in mysterious ways, but always thwarting the will of Americans? Or only half the time? Maybe 80/20? What, I wonder, is the kanicbird worldview?

You should require, as a condition of the poll, that, once having lost, trump would leave office as all other defeated presidents have.

I believe that Trump is just an abject and tawdry swindler who was able to con a large portion of the country because they so much wanted to believe his bullshit and use it justify their self-aggrievement. As such, there is a reason for Trump to be president, and that’s because there’s a sucker born every minute.

The stakes have never been that high in a presidential election. We are talking about marginal changes in policy.

If your interest is in your immediate family and friends, you can have a much bigger impact alive than any given election will ever have.

This is a unique condition of the evangelical American left which springs from its fanatical christian origins. Despite all the crazy anti-Obama rhetoric, conservatives would never have daydreamed such a hypothetical. They are much more likely to put ephemeral political results in the proper context of societal trends. These larger trends are what will determine the world our children inherit.

I’m sorry, but suicide and martyrdom do not signal satisfaction.

On one end is full satisfaction where no action takes place. On the other end is extreme action. Nobody is 100% satisfied or else they would not act in any way. But when someone employs such extreme means to achieve their ends, that tells me they are quite unsatisfied, despite societal pressures that may influence them to claim otherwise.

If someone is hungry and gets up to get a bite to eat from the cupboard, that demonstrates a low level of unsatisfaction. If they migrate to another country to satisfy their hunger, that demonstrates a high level of unsatisfaction.