He’s just upset that Hillary is monopolizing tin that would be better put to use lining red hats.
no but I would give up sweets for the rest of my life…
So, how many people who voted “yes” in this poll were truly serious?
It reminds me of the sports poll where 30% (or something) of Boston Red Sox fans said they would rather die than root for the Yankees. Cheap and easy to say, but if push actually came to shove, I think the actual figure of Sox fans who’d die would have been under 0.001%.
It’s amazing how the right thinks the anger about Trump is simply because we lost an election we thought we were going to win and we’re pissed that Hillary didn’t get her turn.
On a scale of 1 to 10, Hillary not winning is about a 6. I wish she would have won and I think she would have been a good enough President. So if Jeb or Rubio (or god help us, Cruz) would have won, that would be bad in the normal range. Trump winning, however, is off the charts bad. It is so bad, that we have completely forgotten Hillary and don’t care a whit about her not winning. To the extent we think about her at all, it’s to lament that she didn’t run a better campaign.
To summarize, I no longer give a fuck that Hillary lost. I give many fucks that Trump won.
It would be more credible if your side hadn’t said so many similar things about GWB, and if I weren’t so confident they’ll say similar things about the next Republican president too.
I certainly had issues with the presidency of George W. Bush. In retrospect, some of the rhetoric about him was over the top. I am hopeful now that we have seen a true obscenity reach the White House, we will be more careful about how we voice our disagreements with future Republicans. Perhaps I’m an optimist, but I don’t think our nation ever sink this low again in electing a President.
I’m an optimist, but I’m still shocked how many folks, who I thought before were probably decent and well-meaning fellow Americans, cheering along hatred and even sexual assault. In addition to this board, I’ve seen it from a few co-workers in my office – retired veterans who do great work as civilians for the Navy. And some of them have literally cheered groping and bigotry.
Wait. Are you suggesting there’s a parallel between sports fan psychology and the mindset of the politically partisan members of the public? :eek: 
OP: No, generally speaking I wouldn’t give my life to guaranty Trump’s defeat. He might lose anyway. Besides, that’s cheating at democracy. If he’s got such a good chance at winning, then we deserve it if he does.
BUT I might allow myself to come to some kind of harm at Trump’s hands if doing so would result in the political shitstorm that takes him down.
Giving up my own life is not the same thing as hoping for a recession. Recessions are survivable. No one dies from a recession by itself.
No, I would not give up my own life to get Trump out of office. While I can consider the idea of killing oneself to eliminate your own suffering, in all other cases it is morally the same as committing murder. I won’t become a monster to stop a monster.
Though, as Inigo Montoya said, this is not the same as refusing to accept any natural consequences of harm to myself as a result of what is needed to get rid of Trump. I try not to be selfish, which means caring about the wellbeing of others more.
And, yes, I would do much more to stop Trump than any former Republican president. I may have disagrees with those guys, but they were never enemies of America. They may not all of have been paragons of virtue, and they may have had some selfish desires mixed in, but all were doing what they thought was best for the country. Trump is not.
He is just nakedly evil, only out for himself. But for me to give up my life to stop him, I would have to be stopping him from killing others, and wind up dead not by my own actions or choice, but through his.