I agree. JohnClay is not one of my favorite posters but this was golden!
So from your data point of one fat tight-clothing fan, you determined that they all have these same traits? That’s…special.
I could give a lot more specific examples but you’d be reading this thread for quite a while.
I’m living in china right now. All the girls wear tight clothes, hot pants etc (so it’s cultural, not a personality defect), and the overweight girls…damn they’re hot…
…what were we talking about again?
How many of them are 300lbs? And don’t say “fifteen of them crammed in a phone booth”. That doesn’t count! 
Well I was going to ask that question of “how overweight are we talking”?
Someone morbidly obese…no, I probably wouldn’t find them physically attractive whatever they were wearing.
Especially because there’s so much opportunity for counter-data-points. Or, more correctly put, anecdotes.
I’m a size 4/6 and I hate hate hate when clothes are too tight. I also have terrible organizational skills and a lot of trouble with clutter, particularly clean laundry that won’t put itself away.
I have a friend who weighs over 200 pounds and is organized to the point of fastidiousness. I can only imagine that it’s the size of the gap between her waist and her pants that makes this possible? If her clothes get tighter, she’ll lose all of her good qualities?
You of course have the right to your opinions and preferences, but your reasoning is flawed.
No, she would have to take them off at some point.
And I’ll be waiting.
Regards,
Shodan
Incubus, is there a reason why you keep starting these kinds of threads? I seem to remember you mentioning once or twice that you’re happily married, and yet you keep making a point of telling us that you wouldn’t date a fat woman. Your “Would you date a BBW?” thread from just a few months ago had practically the same OP as this one. At around the same time you also started at least two threads about whether fat women were considered attractive in other cultures.
You seem to spend an awful lot of time thinking about dating fat women, how many men would date fat women, and whether fat women are attractive for a married man who claims he isn’t attracted to fat women. Looking over the “Would you date a BBW?” thread again, I see that while you made a big deal about not being attracted to fat women you kept calling them “BBW” (“Big Beautiful Women”), a term used by fat fetishists. Several posters pointed this out to you and asked you to stop using the term, but you kept on doing it.
I think someone has a dirty secret that he’s ashamed of.
No dirty secret, Lamia. In the BBW thread I admitted to dating larger women in the past. Their body type wasn’t my thing, and I realized I had standards that were too low. So I moved on.
Every fat woman I know personally has the same immature hang-ups in life. They’re all disorganized, immature, lazy, and boring. People come stampeding into the thread thinking they’ve got the exception to the rule, but at the end of the day if you have the effort to take care of your own body then it’s going to extend to a lot of other categories in your life.
What % of female PhDs are morbidly obese compared to the national US average?
How many female politicians or CEOs are morbidly obese?
Well, how many MALE politicians or CEOs or pHDs are morbidly obese? If you raise Chris Christie or that fat druggie Limbaugh, I’ll play Oprah or Carnie Wilson and dozens more…interesting that all of a sudden you’re focusing on women. It’s no secret that successful people (of either gender) tend to be thin; but that doesn’t mean that unsuccessful people tend to be overweight.
Do you have any, even just one, cites for your rather outlandish claims? Because otherwise you are just one more random person on the internet with an opinion, and we all know what opinions are worth.
I can think of several seriously obese people in my personal life that are organised, well-put-together, interesting and driven to succeed. And several skinny people who are, as well. And vice versa.
You obviously haven’t moved on, because you keep starting threads about dating fat women and whether fat women are attractive. I asked why you do this. It’s certainly not because you lack interest in fat women, because people don’t start one thread after another to talk about subjects that don’t interest them.
I’m pretty sure I know why you’re so obsessed with the subject of fat women and the men who are attracted to them, I’m just wondering whether you understand what your real motivations are.
I’m beginning to think it’s his wife that’s severely overweight and he’s worried he’s constantly being negatively judged for it. That would explain so much.
Oh they’re both probably fucking whales. You know what im constantly reminded of with all of these fat-bashing/women bashing threads started by Incubus? Those fucking closeted gay men who rabidly hate openly-gay people with the fire of a thousand suns and talk about “praying the gay away”, etc.
Looking into it, there actually seems to be an inverse correlation between conscientiousnessand obesity.
http://www.ori.org/news_and_events/news/low_childhood_conscientiousness_predicts_adult_obesity
How do you separate cause from effect? How many CEOs or politicians are black, short, horribly ugly, etc? Are those people bad at leadership, or do we as a society just not value them enough to let them lead (most CEOs and politicians are white and above average in height).
An obese female has 2 strikes against her in the world of business and politics. That doesn’t mean obese women are inferior, just that people don’t value them as much or take them as seriously.
Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor are chubby and they are on the supreme court.
I’m reminded of how poor whites are often the most racist towards minorities because feeling superior to someone becomes extra necessary when you’re at the bottom of the food chain.
Here’s my theory:
At his large Mexican wedding, he met a lot of his wife’s relatives and they happened to be very fat. (They also happened to be well dressed, not because they were at a wedding but because they are Mexicanly superior to Dopers and dress like that at the grocery store too, even though they are fat. While we are all gringo slobs who don’t work hard.)
Anyway, despite being well dressed these people were fat and shared genes with his wife. It scares the shit out of him that his wife could get fat as she got older or had kids, like her relatives, so he has to rationalize it: these people, and all people are fat because they are less intelligent and care less about themselves than my wife and me. They have given up and are 100% responsible for their size. It has nothing to do with genes. As long as my wife stays more intelligent and morally superior to these folks, I will never have a fat wife.
He could never stay married to a fat woman, but couldn’t divorce a Mexican. Because her cousins are all in a gang and would kill him. I know this because all of the Mexican I know is in a gang.
I have a strong attraction to guys who are very thin. That’s just the way I’ve always been, and I can’t explain it. On rare occasions, though, I’ve been attracted to overweight guys, regardless of how they’re dressed.
Would you date a fat person who wore tight clothes all the time?
Get the grammar right.